Does anyone else think that the metronome is too quiet?

I don't know. If i load sounds and leave them at the default volume then the metronome is too quiet. But who does that? I always bring the track volume down, because the master would clip otherwise when i have more tracks.

But that's not a mpc software thing, that's how it is in every daw. Normally the sounds you load into the ren or any daw were recorded at the loudest volume, so of course you have to bring them down! C'mon, we are 24 Bit these days, who cares about lower volumes? It's a normal workflow to keep the master at average volume, so the tracks must be brought down! --> the metronome isn't too quiet then

Nope. Gain staging through out the production process fixes this, and is needed anyhow to get a decent mix for me.

on a side note if you have time

listen to this very amazing podcast about the metronome

and yes i agree up the volume please


http://www.radiolab.org/blogs/radiolab-blog/2013/feb/19/speedy-beet/

Maybe you cant hear the metronome because your track and program volumes are set to 100% max, plus the samples you have assigned to those tracks/programs are Normalized to 0db. So basically everything is at maximum loudness. Obviously when anyone begins making a beat they are going to lower their track/program volumes as they start mixing to make the mix fit and avoid clipping. Like seriously? When you make beats, do you have your Kick, Snare, Hat, Crashes, Bass, Guitar, Samples, etc... ALL set to 100% max volume!?. Uh duh NO, thats crazy.

For example, my hi-hat volumes will be like 10%, my snares might be around 20-30%, kick anywhere from 25%-50% and etc... And maybe like 75% volume is the loudest ill go on any track if that. It's just basic mixing tecnique to lower your volumes. I keep my volumes low whenever I am mixing my beat, it makes it way easier to mix.

So it makes no sense when you guys say the metronome is too low, you are SUPPOSED to lower the volumes of your tracks. Do you guys really have your tracks turned all the way up to 90%-100% when mixing???? Obviously you are not going to hear the metronome, your might clipping, distortion and a bad mix.

In comparison to past MPCs, and current beat machines--I believe that the metronome should be louder on the Ren/Studio.

lol but the metronome is the exact same metronome mpcs have had for years! And works like any metronome on any daw/sequencer/keyboard. Turn your main outs on your interface up, and lower your track/program volumes. I've had some pretty high track volumes with samples normalized to max, with metronome set to 75% I can still hear the POP CLICK of the metronome banging through loud and clear. People got to learn how to mix, lower your tracks!!!! lmao

^ InspectahEx your remedy is correct, but I do not remember having to fuss so much around with the metronome with past MPCs. In fact, I remember the metronome being too loud.

Anyway, perhaps AKAI will address this in the future, perhaps not. . .

As an alternative you could always record your own metronome on a track and use that. Something like this:
1) get a sample (hi hat, bongo, or whatever)
2) record at desired time durations (4th, 8th 16th notes)
3) btw it would be best to use track 128 (since you'll probably never use that in your actual recordings)
4) set other parameters and save this as your default template

Now you have a metronome that you can adjust. The only problem is when you use a different time signature (i.e. 12/8) but you can always either save different templates or just re-record the metronome to whatever time signature you want.

JAH wrote:

konc3pt wrote:you cant switch up metronome sound like you can on MPC 2500/1000 w/JJOS ?

InspectahEX wrote:nope^

The MPC Ren's default metronome is the MPC Click as seen in hardware MPCs like the 2000XL. But there are other sound options available. MPCs have had customizable metronomes years before the JJ OS.

I do believe the Ren's metronome is too quiet; I keep it on max volume. Anything lower than that is unusable to me. I am just suprised it has taking forum members several months to discuss this.

Just curious... how do you change the sound?

Just press F2 on the main screen. You can change the sound in the bottom of the menu

thanks

Jonespnice1 wrote:As an alternative you could always record your own metronome on a track and use that. Something like this:
1) get a sample (hi hat, bongo, or whatever)
2) record at desired time durations (4th, 8th 16th notes)
3) btw it would be best to use track 128 (since you'll probably never use that in your actual recordings)
4) set other parameters and save this as your default template

Now you have a metronome that you can adjust. The only problem is when you use a different time signature (i.e. 12/8) but you can always either save different templates or just re-record the metronome to whatever time signature you want.

I remember having ti gain stage using the 4k, if not the metronome was far too low.

This may be a result of the Ren and 4k being 24bit, and having a higher dynamic range than the 16bit MPC's.