Feature Suggestions: MPC Renaissance

Make Shift + Number on keypad let us jump to different tracks or sequences, ok im done ran out of ideas

MPC-Tutor wrote:PROG EDIT - in the hardware, to be able to use the cursor to actually navigate the 'Samples' screen and use the data wheel to assign samples - i.e. cursor navigate to the 'Sample 1' cell and turn the data wheel to scroll through the samples.

I simply hate using the Q Links for this, they are too sensitive, it's like trying to crack a safe (or getting my shower temperature control 'just right').

Even though I know the cursors do nothing in this screen, I still can't stop myself trying to use them regardless.

Same goes for many other parameters in PROG EDIT - the Q links are fine for some (e.g. velocity or tuning changes) but for others (e.g. setting ranges) they are complete unsuitable IMO, it's too hard to get the exact value you want.

I also want the 'Samples' screen (and all the others) to show this data in the cells themselves, not on the top right of the screen only. I'm sure there's a reason why this wasn't done, but on screen cursor navigation is a classic legacy feature and just seems to come naturally to a legacy MPC user - the Q link method seems pretty clunky to me. Seriously, can't we have both (i.e. Q link control and cursor/data wheel)?

I agree. often hitting the cursor my self. Just like open window and nothing happens.

I also want the 'Samples' screen (and all the others) to show this data in the cells themselves, not on the top right of the screen only.

And this is a must. And notice when you hit a pad the name pops up on the right, then vanishes when you hit it again. But sometimes it stays ...I cant tell if these are bugs or features...

And despite the manual saying for fine control of plugin parameters hit shift. Doesnt work at my end. For example take one of the delays and the delay time goes up by multiples of 20ms. this is no use if you need your delay at 229 but can only get either 220 or 240. not really related, but they are related to the Qlinks I guess.

labcoats wrote:
And despite the manual saying for fine control of plugin parameters hit shift. Doesnt work at my end. For example take one of the delays and the delay time goes up by multiples of 20ms. this is no use if you need your delay at 229 but can only get either 220 or 240. not really related, but they are related to the Qlinks I guess.

Delays don't necessarily work that way. I took a look at the Ren's stock Delays and Universal Audio's Delays. You can't dial or punch in any number you want. They are fixed at specific increments.

Also the data dial, Qlinks, and your mouse have different resolutions so you won't be able to set certain values depending on what method you are using.

As stated in another fred:

83dude wrote:My top requests so far:


1. Make tracks rearrangeable.

Why? Let me get you a brief example:
I start a beat by making kick, snare and hihat on tracks 1-3, then I record a bass on track 4 and some samples on tracks 5 & 6. Then, I add some toms on track 7. Afterwards I might play around with the bass (filters, envelopes, and plugins) on a different track, i.e. track 8. And then I might add some percussion on track 9.
Now I have my drums spread over tracks 1, 2, 3, 7 and 9, while my bass plays on tracks 4 and 8. Unfortunately, to put them in a logical order I need to redo the whole project, because I can't use a cluttered project like this when performing on stage.


2. Allow automatic program-to-track-naming.

See above: Right now I manually have to name each track accordingly. An option (like via right-Click) to automatically name the tracks by using it's program's name would come in handy.


3. Improved automation handling.

Sometimes it's hard to find automation data properly. Maybe automation "lanes" should be added to TRACK VIEW? Even handling automation is stupid - you can't just set the track to ignore the automation, and deleting / resetting automation can be a pain in the ...


4. Link Peak Reset in LCD and software.

Right now, when I press RESET PEAK on the hardware I still have to click the same button in the software, too.


5. Proper non-destructive chopping.

This has been discussed thoroughly and apparently needs no further explanation.


6. LCD wave zoom.

Also, discussed thoroughly.


7. ReWire.

I'd love to integrate the MPC as a ReWire slave into Reason itself - although this would require Reason 7 to be ablte to boot as ReWire host (instead of slave-only as in 6.5).


8. Inserts per pad AND per track

Also, 'nuff sed.


Just my two sends (muhaha).

EDIT: Also, a knob for STEREO WIDTH would be a great assett for the mixer.

PAD ASSIGN Mode needs to be able to access all 4 layers of a pad, on the hw screen

Here is a simple, but needed feature. Add the ability to save custom presets in Program Edit.

Add Midi Patch scripts names for external midi sound modules.

an idea for being able to sample into ren with vintage mode applied..

if possible, there are many blank q links ont he record sample page.. maybe one of thsoe could be used to cycle through the various vintage modes

Auto-save

How about this... Give every blank Qlink a function! There's just as much the Ren can do as it can't do, some add some features people ask for and assign them to the blank qlinks. Everytime I switch a mode, only to see 12 out of 16 qlinks dont even have a function it makes me sad. Also, every time the WINDOW button doesnt light up I get sad too. I also get sad when I see the "Other" button and switch to other mode just see some a few parameters I would normally adjust in preferences.

JAH wrote:

labcoats wrote:
And despite the manual saying for fine control of plugin parameters hit shift. Doesnt work at my end. For example take one of the delays and the delay time goes up by multiples of 20ms. this is no use if you need your delay at 229 but can only get either 220 or 240. not really related, but they are related to the Qlinks I guess.

Delays don't necessarily work that way. I took a look at the Ren's stock Delays and Universal Audio's Delays. You can't dial or punch in any number you want. They are fixed at specific increments.

Also the data dial, Qlinks, and your mouse have different resolutions so you won't be able to set certain values depending on what method you are using.

As I said I dont get fine resolution regardless if I use the (shift) mouse or the Q links. Fine resolution is not increments of 20ms. Are you crazy


The Rens effects are the only ones I have which don't allow me fine resolution. I don't have a single other delay effect I cannot increment in 1ms multiples. I'm talking about using those effects inside the Ren. This is coding - nothing more, and I totally expect them to get around to fixing this. Producers have been fine tuning their delays in less than 1ms increments for decades. Wake up man!

labcoats wrote:

JAH wrote:

labcoats wrote:
And despite the manual saying for fine control of plugin parameters hit shift. Doesnt work at my end. For example take one of the delays and the delay time goes up by multiples of 20ms. this is no use if you need your delay at 229 but can only get either 220 or 240. not really related, but they are related to the Qlinks I guess.

Delays don't necessarily work that way. I took a look at the Ren's stock Delays and Universal Audio's Delays. You can't dial or punch in any number you want. They are fixed at specific increments.

Also the data dial, Qlinks, and your mouse have different resolutions so you won't be able to set certain values depending on what method you are using.

As I said I dont get fine resolution regardless if I use the (shift) mouse or the Q links. Fine resolution is not increments of 20ms. Are you crazy


The Rens effects are the only ones I have which don't allow me fine resolution. I don't have a single other delay effect I cannot increment in 1ms multiples. I'm talking about using those effects inside the Ren. This is coding - nothing more, and I totally expect them to get around to fixing this. Producers have been fine tuning their delays in less than 1ms increments for decades. Wake up man!

You need to wake up, slow down, and read what I wrote.

For example....Universal Audio has a DM-1 Delay Modulation plugin. You can set delay from .14 ms to 125 ms. But you CANNOT set it to every value between these min/max values. The values are set a fixed increments when using your mouse.
Example:
1. Open Pro Tools
2. Insert 'Long Delay II' plugin (stock delay plugin)
3. Open the plugin GUI
4. Use your mouse to set the delay time

Results - You will notice as you use your mouse to drag the slider to adjust this param, you won't be able to choose any value. You will be able to choose 4.26, 8.53, 12.79, etc. Why can't you set it to 4 ms with a mouse? Why not 5 ms with a mouse? If you try to set it to 21ms, the closest you will get is 21.32ms.

Take a look at Maschine. If you use the same UAD delay effect, it won't attempt to display an intuitive value. Instead of displaying values between .14 ms to 125 ms...it simply shows from 0% to 100%. That is 101 values if your are counting. Now how many values can you count between .14 ms to 125 ms noting that there are decimals?

You did get 1 thing correct. It is coding. And I just displayed 3 different products for you to mull over with similar results.

Inputs devices (knobs, data dials, mouse, etc) just don't perform the way you expect them here.

The requirement to adjust delay setting in multiples of 1ms or less is standard stuff. Even some kid designing a free delay will implement this. With the Rens plugins they are in multiple of 20ms. Were not talking about UA plugins or Pro Tools plugins - This is about the Rens plugins and the simple fact that 20ms is absolutely no use for many of us.

AKai if you read this - get with the plan and gives us a finer resolution. Its like working with Steinbergs very first VST delay way back in 1997.

I've said all I can on this

InspectahEX wrote:
I just think the whole 'effects not carrying over to all sequences' thing is just something akai has overlooked while trying to make the Ren stable and adding features it should have had already. I think they will fix it by 1.4, bc I know other mpcs didnt work like that. You could add an effect and it will effect every sequence. Its def a workflow killer, thats not how mpcs were designed to work with one long linear sequence. Thats what sequences are for, you put sequences together to make a song. It's def a bug, no way akai can be that stupid to actually design it and intend it to work that way. NO WAY. They cant be that stupid. Every sequence in a project should be based on the same mixer and effects. Dont listen to Jah, hes basically telling you to treat a sequence as if it were a project, that might be the work around for now but its not supposed to be like that.



Exactly - and I really really hope your right because right now I see this as such a serious workflow killer which completely dilutes the point of sequences, on the fly arrangements, feeling the moment etc.






....Why Not throw that in there as well???

Might As Well
...LOL