Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs
By jimmie Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:29 pm
e9000k wrote:Card Reader:
Startech 3.5" IDE to Single CF SSD Adapter
http://eu.startech.com/HDD/Card-Readers/Internal/Compact-Flash-Card-to-IDE-Adapter-with-35-Bay-Enclosure~35BAYCF2IDE


Is this hot-swappable?

Is the Acard 7720U hot-swap capable?
From what I have read, it's the actual CF card reader that you have to be careful with, to make sure you can hot-swap. Is that right?
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By SimonInAustralia Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:32 am
jimmie wrote:
e9000k wrote:Card Reader:
Startech 3.5" IDE to Single CF SSD Adapter
http://eu.startech.com/HDD/Card-Readers/Internal/Compact-Flash-Card-to-IDE-Adapter-with-35-Bay-Enclosure~35BAYCF2IDE


Is this hot-swappable?

No.

If you look at the PCB, there are no electronic components on it, it is simply a direct electrical connection/adapter between the IDE/ATA cable and the CF card.

It needs to be ATAPI to be hot swappable, and there would be some electronic components if it were.


jimmie wrote:Is the Acard 7720U hot-swap capable?

Yes.


jimmie wrote:From what I have read, it's the actual CF card reader that you have to be careful with, to make sure you can hot-swap. Is that right?

Yes, needs to support ATAPI hot swapping, and seems to be that if it supports hot swapping on most computer OS types without needing a driver, then it might hot swap in the MPC3000/60.

There seem to be very few readily available card readers that do hot swap in the MPC3000.

I think that this Delock 91640 model might have been sold as hot swap in the MPC3000, but I saw it do a few strange things when hot swapping in mine, in a brief test, so not sure I would trust it...

http://www.delock.com/produkte/F_276_in ... kmale.html
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By amenfetamin Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:55 am
SimonInAustralia wrote:I think that this Delock 91640 model might have been sold as hot swap in the MPC3000, but I saw it do a few strange things when hot swapping in mine, in a brief test, so not sure I would trust it...

Could you shed some light on this matter? What kind of strange things? I'm using the same drive and would like to know more about this subject.
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By SimonInAustralia Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:01 am
ZWUKOLOW wrote:
SimonInAustralia wrote:I think that this Delock 91640 model might have been sold as hot swap in the MPC3000, but I saw it do a few strange things when hot swapping in mine, in a brief test, so not sure I would trust it...

Could you shed some light on this matter? What kind of strange things? I'm using the same drive and would like to know more about this subject.

I was seeing weird things where after a hotswap, it wasn't showing the files properly on the newly inserted card.

As I said, I only did some brief testing, I didn't really look into it too much, as the SATA bridge and SATA reader seems a better way to go for me, so not sure what was actually causing it, and how repeatable it was.

It might not really be a problem, might have been an issue with the IDE cable I was using (80 wire/40 pin IDE cables might be causing problems, for me), or something.

But if it is working fine for you, and others, it is probably all good
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By amenfetamin Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:20 am
SimonInAustralia wrote:
ZWUKOLOW wrote:
SimonInAustralia wrote:I think that this Delock 91640 model might have been sold as hot swap in the MPC3000, but I saw it do a few strange things when hot swapping in mine, in a brief test, so not sure I would trust it...

Could you shed some light on this matter? What kind of strange things? I'm using the same drive and would like to know more about this subject.

I was seeing weird things where after a hotswap, it wasn't showing the files properly on the newly inserted card.

As I said, I only did some brief testing, I didn't really look into it too much, as the SATA bridge and SATA reader seems a better way to go for me, so not sure what was actually causing it, and how repeatable it was.

It might not really be a problem, might have been an issue with the IDE cable I was using (80 wire/40 pin IDE cables might be causing problems, for me), or something.

But if it is working fine for you, and others, it is probably all good

I probably know what do you mean now. It's doing the same things to me, when after hot swap, content of the new card isn't shown immediately and the old files are still shown instead. I have to change the partition to some another, than return back to where the files suppose to be, or to make the SCSI drive active and return back into load menu.
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By SimonInAustralia Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:25 am
ZWUKOLOW wrote:I probably know what do you mean now. It's doing the same things to me, when after hot swap, content of the new card isn't shown immediately and the old files are still shown instead. I have to change the partition to some another, than return back to where the files suppose to be, or to make the SCSI drive active and return back into load menu.

I think it was doing weird things for me, even after making it active and returning to the load screen.

But again, I really didn't test it much, it is probably OK, and there don't seem to be many other ATAPI hotswap readers that will work with the MPC3000 and MPC60.