ableton live lite

what's the deal with this, is it free?
i've had a bunch of these disks get passed in and out of my possession when i buy devices...always tossed em. now i find myself needing one, because apparently you can't just dl it off ableton's website and use it as is without some sort of key (???)

yet another company that would be wiser to relax their lame copy protection schemes in favor of drawing in more potential enthusiastic and vocal advocates

it's not exactly free... just a stripped-down version of ableton live that comes included with certain products [mainly midi controllers]... it does have a serial number or whatever on a piece of paper included with the installation CD though... i used to have a few of these as well... not sure if i kept them since i use the full version.

i claimed mine with my soundcloud account.

useful to have.

yer limited to 8 tracks, only a certain number of clips per track, and some fx / synth limits, but for what i use it for, it is nice to have around.

it seems i missed that promotion. it is no longer active.

yeah i just need it for 1 midi track and some follow actions for my monome clone
midi in from launchpad into reaper, grid goes out to ableton via loopbe ch 1, grid triggers MLR in ableton, and then back to reaper via loopbe ch 2.

ugh.

i installed ableton lite 8, and NOWHERE in the software does it say "lite"
going to authorize the software on their web page prompts for a serial number, which i was not provided because i dled it off their servers.

it merely prompts me to purchase the full version of the software.

furthermore, "lite" is not at ALL publicized on their login page.

wow. i am officially never buying ableton software on principle. like a number of other companies, they are corralling their would-be users to behave in a certain way instead of letting them make their own choices. this is ridiculous.

ridiculous seems a bit harsh when akai have set the bar so low.

i would just chill a second - i think lite is a different version than you can download freely.

either way, when i did i needed the serial too, i emailed them and in 24 hours a *real* person had answered and given me what i needed.

still, what are you trying to use ableton for again? sounds like something that could maybe be accomplished easier in a tool like chuck. i guess my question is 'what is mlr for?'

never heard of chuck - link me?

i would just chill a second - i think lite is a different version than you can download freely.

lite is the one i grabbed from their servers, specifically from the "lite" page. yet nowhere on the program that was installed does it say "lite" (i triple checked the download link to make sure it was the right one: ableton_live_lite_834_with_content_32.zip).

in fact, as i just discovered - though the installer reads: "ableton_live_lite_834_with_content_32.zip" this file does NOT contain ableton live lite. the zip contains an MSI for ableton live 8. either this link is misdirected or .... ?

still, what are you trying to use ableton for again? sounds like something that could maybe be accomplished easier in a tool like chuck. i guess my question is 'what is mlr for?'

mlr is your standard monome beat slicer thing. i'm attempting to use ableton lite to simply trigger midi clips with a single ++ incrementing midi note, similar to what i'm doing here in REAPER with piz midi looper:



ableton is perfect for this. using the demo 8 version i unwittingly installed (couldn't save) i was able to build up an MLR style interface in 5 minutes

http://chuck.cs.princeton.edu/
http://audicle.cs.princeton.edu/mini/ <-to start with

chuck is basically a programming language based on music / dsp concepts and very very rigidly tied to sample rate (that makes it very handy). i use it mostly when i want to give the machine more of a chance to sing instead of telling it what i think i want it to do.
we should definitely leave the chuck talk to a different thread, because it will totally balloon.

still, the way you describe it, sounds perfect for chuck, though again, i don't really know your end goal.
psuedo-code...i'm a little rusty and dont remember the exact grammatical particulars of midi in chuck


the cool thing about chuck is you can run it via terminal once you've written the program so it integrates into your computer, basically transforming it to do whatever you want, very smoothly.

i think the idea behind live lite is that it is the full version, and only de-cripples depending on the serial number entered...i am not sure about that, it has been a while.

still, shoot them an email and see if they cant help.

i'll look at chuck when i'm bored at work, seems like something i'd be interested in.

meanwhile, any idea how to make ableton return midi to the host application when it is in slave mode??

Live Lite has always required a serial. There is no free version that just anybody can install. I believe Lite went from a 4 track limit (any combo of audio+MIDI) to 6 (I would hope 8 actually can't recall).

But yeah Nym I feel your frustration with how they aren't making any of this clear. I've given away two Lite serials on here before. If I find a third one lying around I'll give it to you.

I haven't slaved Live in forever but if I recall any solutions to the MIDI thing I'll let you know.

If these apps don't apply sorry in advance. (again I'd have to look at a Live slaved situation myself to really look at what you asked) But maybe these could help.

http://www.copperlan.org/index.php/comp ... article/47

http://www.sionsoft.com/hubi.html

But you're already using LoopBe so maybe these are just more of the same and won't solve your Live setup thing.

thanks metatron, copperlan actually looks really cool for something else i'm working on...but you're right, this is more of the same stuff i was working on today.

i can sync ableton to reaper just fine via mtc, but then the sync doesn't update when reaper changes tempo.

i'm in the clear if i can get ableton to return midi back to the rewire host. if not, i need to find a new MLR solution, or give up this dream for another year or so. OR invest the time in chuck.

i dont think live lite supports launchpad

why not use midiclock? that would update tempo just fine.

hit me on pm if you do get into chuck.

rogue scrunt wrote:i dont think live lite supports launchpad

not an issue

i'll try midi clock, but i don't know it reaper sends that. i haven't done much with any DAW as master before, only the MPC

Nym wrote:i'll try midi clock, but i don't know it reaper sends that. i haven't done much with any DAW as master before, only the MPC

get ready to fall back in love with your mpc

damn i hate sending midiclock from a daw - maybe you wont have issues using virtual midi though, but i wouldn't be surprised if the inherent jitter is still an issue.