OS3 under development

punkydoodle wrote:just checked NDC now.
Man, for my kind of working it is just WTF.
nothing i do with my MPC will work anymore.

i need often VERY precise setting of sample start and end,
i need to have the option for one shot, Note on, but also Loop.....gonne
absolutely need QLink on ALL. need to play with Tune or Filter on ALL pads

so still in Love with my OS2XL

Update today has seemed to fix that issue of Qlink to all track..
http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~mpc1000/bug/
Im still checking but I think that is changed for you there. I do think though you acn always make a program from your slices but yeah I think it was cool how you could change NDC and it was reflected in program and you could one shot/loop/hold em.
So I am still thinking about it and trying to, and not yet come to a conclusion. I mean its good but yeah........

punkydoodle wrote:still in Love with my OS2XL

for me, os3 lacks too many things that are crucial for MY workflow. but i am happy for all you cats who dig os3!

**** yeah!!!

installed 1.01 and the distortion is gone and the numeric key customize is back!!!

I love that japanese dude

quick bug fixes ever


to animated: no more trickery man just install 1.01

andreat668 wrote:**** yeah!!!

installed 1.01 and the distortion is gone and the numeric key customize is back!!!

I love that japanese dude

quick bug fixes ever


to animated: no more trickery man just install 1.01

Yes mate, I just found the same thing! No mention of it in the bug fix though. Good old jj.

OS3 has a lot of advantages, but also some drawbacks vs. 2XL.
So there's nothing, feature-wise, that's keeping me from switching, they're pretty much equal in terms of functionality (in my eyes).
But the thing that keeps me from switching is the effort required to make the switch; there's just not enough going for OS3 that justifies changing my workflow and rendering old (and current) projects obsolete. For me, at least.

it does look cool, though, and I'm glad jj is still being active.

Are you guys experiencing some kind of screen lag/slow down, specially in trim mode and into the note grid on main window?
Also I would like to know if the CPU load is more than os2xl/osxl

andreat668 wrote:Are you guys experiencing some kind of screen lag/slow down, specially in trim mode and into the note grid on main window?
Also I would like to know if the CPU load is more than os2xl/osxl

Yes. I am. And it's throwing me off as i use the new NDC to hone in on transients. Coupled with the fact that it resets the zoom everytime, it's very distracting.

sciguy wrote:OS3 has a lot of advantages, but also some drawbacks vs. 2XL.
So there's nothing, feature-wise, that's keeping me from switching, they're pretty much equal in terms of functionality (in my eyes).
But the thing that keeps me from switching is the effort required to make the switch; there's just not enough going for OS3 that justifies changing my workflow and rendering old (and current) projects obsolete. For me, at least.

it does look cool, though, and I'm glad jj is still being active.

I will pretend I did not hear you say that sciguy. I mean did you look at the chord bank? OR invert phase not good? try and explain why its no good or what is lacking instead of being a hater

Work flow short falls in my book are the following. There is no main screen button assignment (already discussed) and the grip step edit loop mode with the other view, and lack of note editing in grid like note number. So a mix of the new and old would be good. I kinda was actually thinking of just going back to OS2.31 for that feature only when I was writing stuff today.

bliprock wrote:

sciguy wrote:OS3 has a lot of advantages, but also some drawbacks vs. 2XL.
So there's nothing, feature-wise, that's keeping me from switching, they're pretty much equal in terms of functionality (in my eyes).
But the thing that keeps me from switching is the effort required to make the switch; there's just not enough going for OS3 that justifies changing my workflow and rendering old (and current) projects obsolete. For me, at least.

it does look cool, though, and I'm glad jj is still being active.

I will pretend I did not hear you say that sciguy. I mean did you look at the chord bank? OR invert phase not good? try and explain why its no good or what is lacking instead of being a hater

Work flow short falls in my book are the following. There is no main screen button assignment (already discussed) and the grip step edit loop mode with the other view, and lack of note editing in grid like note number. So a mix of the new and old would be good. I kinda was actually thinking of just going back to OS2.31 for that feature only when I was writing stuff today.

What about the 1/2 sized grid in MAIN view just so we can see the pressure pad options that don't record anything (yet??? please JJ?). I agree Bliprock. I'll stay upgraded, but I hope he smooths a few things.

Also, Is this a possible error? Since they have removed the LOOP Function button I've been trying to get to the loop toggle quickly. In the 128 manual it says to hold SHIFT + right arrow but that brings me to the pattern toggle.

i used to have serious lag in os128xl trim mode, but it has been corrected. must be os3. take a video of it and submit it as a bug.

rendering old (and current) projects obsolete

depending on the functions you use in 2xl, that may not be a problem. my os2xl projects transferred very smoothly into 128xl. if you're doing a lot of midi stuff, odds are you'll be good to go. internal stuff is always hit and miss across OS versions.

i really hope that full NDC functionality will find its way back ...i need to have the option for one shot, Note on, but also Loop.....gonne

punkydoodle...? LOOP never applied to NDC since they all reference 1 sample with 1 set of loop points. the rest is all there in os3, you must have missed it -- or i misunderstood what you're saying. here's the manual page. note the F1 button, sample1 and sample2 ...

http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~mpc1000/128 ... st_end.htm

lack of note editing in grid like note number.

i also absolutely want quick param editing in GRID mode. i like the new MOVE function, but i think we should be able to hit WINDOW while hovering over notes to edit their parameters (velocity, position, duration, etc). instead, we have to go into step edit, which i'm not feeling.

the good news is that it's made me step my performances up, since i'm doing more overdubbing and recording instead of deep editing.

switching from main to grid edit seems to override the loop on.. so if you have a 2 bar loop and switch to grid it just keeps recording past 2 bars until you stop it..

josephnicks wrote:switching from main to grid edit seems to override the loop on.. so if you have a 2 bar loop and switch to grid it just keeps recording past 2 bars until you stop it..

Yeah I can confirm that and I can confirm its annoying as
Also seems to default to program number 45 or something when i have program highlighted on main screen and change to a new track.

Nym wrote:i also absolutely want quick param editing in GRID mode. i like the new MOVE function, but i think we should be able to hit WINDOW while hovering over notes to edit their parameters (velocity, position, duration, etc). instead, we have to go into step edit, which i'm not feeling.

the good news is that it's made me step my performances up, since i'm doing more overdubbing and recording instead of deep editing.

Move is good but i prefer being able to move all at once ect. Also notes end up stacking up on each other and you can not move just one note, it moves both.

Any chance we can get an idea about the chord banks chords? it has instances of say m7 1, m7 2, m7 3. I assume different minor scales? or different voicing only? say inverted? I have not bothered to double check it and was wondering if anyone knew?

Does this load all of your old songs OS2XL with all the settings intact?

miscend wrote:Does this load all of your old songs OS2XL with all the settings intact?

If you read the thread or JJ website you would know the answer, which is no, depends, and maybe. Try it and see.


Mutes are way weird from XL today for me. So here is a question for dev team. There seems no documentation on the functions of mute events in grid edit screen?
Anyone get how or why it shows MUTE....A.....B....C....D??
I can not remove it in grid edit and think maybe it has some thing to do with my mute groups being a bit screwy.

Or not? I can not see it in the manual so hence asking here.

Still waitin for some one to tell us the difference in chords but I spose I can figure it out myself, though confirmation would be nice.