making sampes fit

say im making a beat at 170bpm and i have a sample thats at say 120 bpm. how do i fit this sample to 170. without having to chop it all up. can i change the sample tempo of 120 to 170?

You could use timestretch but 50 beats is a lot for that method so you might look to a more powerful timestretch algorithm in software if that's available to you. You could have the MPC do it but it will probably have a lot of digital artifacting that you might not like unless you're looking to mangle the sample by design.

Then there's chopping it as you mentioned, and working the gaps and placements out yourself, modifying the decays and perhaps a touch of delay are helpful doing it that way.

what sort of computer progams could i use. i have ableton but am having issues authorizing it so i cant save anythin. any other prgrams?

bopalot wrote:what sort of computer progams could i use. i have ableton but am having issues authorizing it so i cant save anythin. any other prgrams?

Sound Forge Pro 10 for timestretch.

Then Propellerheads ReCycle to chop into little pieces, modify the decays and add delay (Stretch %) to your chops.

Export chops, load into MPC and adjust ADSR there.

That's what i would do.

Old school Recycle style is what I do about 90% of the time myself.

bopalot, if you can sort your Ableton out that's the quickest of them all really. Also allows for deep control of the process as you can deal with the Warp Markers extremely quickly.

sometimes it works better to chop things up! I mean, you are using an mpc! haha. But for real though, if you wanna time stretch that much, Id go with what these guys said and check into software because the timestretch on the MPC can be your bestfriend/worst enemy. If you wanna mess with the pitch/tuning thatll also change the length but also the sound

.....chopping is your friend....

and recycle is doin' the same job, end of the day....

but 50 bpm plus is quite a change......so take ableton and forget about saving for now...
just throw your loop in there, warp it, play it and record it that way back to the mpc.....

but hey.....just picking a loop from somewhere and timestrech it is not the real deal....your mpc can take you way beyond....there's no better feeling than knowing it's all YOUR sound coming out there....

He can't export if his Live isn't unlocked, but he could record the outs over Rewire or whatever.

But like I mentioned within 20-25 BPM chopping/Recycle is the easiest method like you mentioned reeloy.

Then just make a new beat with 120 bpm sample and find another sample that fits the 170 bpm beat.

if you aren't going to actually chop any samples and just plan on using time-stretched loops, you should probably just work in ableton live rather than an MPC. the MPC is more deigned for chopping & sequencing and will mess with your workflow if all you wanna do is layer loops.

I find myself wishing that I could timestretch my own samples/recordings better on the MPC VERY often. Something about the way the audio is warped/degraded/changed is hyper attractive to me, which is one reason why I miss my OctaTrack so much.

Are there any decent free programs out there that would allow me to experiment with timestretched samples? Of course, once I find the right sound/length/tempo, it's right back into the MPC for me.

I've tried my hand with Ableton but just cannot gel and/or figure it out at all. Plus, seems like a huge headache for someone like me who would just be using a program to stretch/effect/blah a sample before it hits the MPC. Most everything I do is all self-sampled so this would be super, super helpful for a dude in my position!

Thanks homies

medearis, try using Reaper, a free daw that works very easy. Or Adobe Audition, also good voor editing.

@Bathmutz - I appreciate the reply. I've used Reaper before (I do audio work 'round my town) but I've never really snapped to it. Is there a way to timestretch stuff in Reaper I've never seen before? I was attempting to use it for doing mobile recording but I ended up just going back to Logic on my Mac. Really don't want to have to take the Mac with meh... so hoping for something free/cheapy for simple sample editing on the PC.

unlock live get your tools straight first.