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By Undertow Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:37 pm
I saw that others were having issues but hadn't looked too far into it since I haven't gotten around to using the new license manager nor updated drivers. I guess I'll wait until they iron this out and hopefully won't be affected. Thanks for the heads up!

A bit of an embarrassing misstep really.
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By Metatron72 Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:57 pm
iLok driver issues...?...never.... :lol:

My iLok 1 is working fine for a long time now. Unless I buy a newer plugin that forces you to use the iLok 2 (which is kind of shady in my mind) I'm avoiding it.

Hope it's smooth sailing for you guys though.
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By Metatron72 Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:40 pm
Fair enough but it closes the door to having tons of incredible software at your disposal. It's not like a 100 other things on Windows and OS X aren't problematic at times. So I'm not going to never use/buy 100's of top shelf things over losing a USB port or needing to fix a driver now and then.

With iLok I don't mind it so long as the drivers are working, and if every 18 months I have to re-install one it's no big deal.


I'll take an iLok over Native Instrument monitoring my computer when its on the web. If you accidentally turn on both your allowed computers for NI stuff they can remotely corrupt one of the installs, they did it to me one afternoon. If I recall the NI app was only running on one the boxes I didn't run the app twice in tandem. I was web surfing on the other computer.

Had to re-install the whole app after that, which is just silly.

iLok I can just put the app on all my computer, 100 terminals if I had that many. :lol: And On clean OS installs It's saves me hours and days of challenge/response/writing on emails from foreign countries/asking for counter resets and waiting again.

Xils lab's last couple releases have been serial only after prior ones where iLok. I won't say I don't welcome that, and I think Xavier over there is off the mind set that if it goes on 3-4 boxes they will be my 3-4 computers. (have to check if he imposes a limit, I have the newer plugs on 2 Windows ones and one Mac).

But I do agree Nym that the preference would be some honor on our part and a reasonably less intrusive method to have our software unlocked/licensed. But I personally accept that a lot of companies are not going to want to trust everybody and hope for the best.
By dtaa pla muk Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:44 pm
It's not like a 100 other things on Windows and OS X aren't problematic at times


in my opinion, bugs in software are in a whole different league than completely unnecessary BS resulting from overly vigorous copy protection. it's like buying a shirt that constantly has that theft prevention thing attached to it - ridiculous, and not worth supporting.

you've also just described why NI will never get my money.

i just spent 100 bucks on bidule after reviewing their license - the purchaser can install and use the software on as many computers as you like after purchasing. even simultaneously. this is the way software should be licensed in 2013. anything less is an absurdity.

But I personally accept that a lot of companies are not going to want to trust everybody and hope for the best.


even as my productivity increases, the number of companies that i will readily support shrinks every year. i can no longer advocate that people purchase Novation products, for example, as they have not corrected a longstanding driver issue with their original launchpad line.

buy independent, and buy directly from the developers. if you're paying anyone else, you're paying extra money for marketing. otherwise, buy used.