Forum to discuss all matters relating to the MPC1000 and MPC2500 operating systems created by 'JJ' (all versions).
By LogaRhytmus Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:06 am
hi,

i am interessted in the jjos software.
my background is ableton so my question is: is it possible in jjos to have different clip/ loop/ track lenght?

in ableton ive got different lenghts. THIS would be nice to have in jjos??

thanks in advance
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By sciguy Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:49 pm
Do you mean something like having one track looping 4 beats while another loops 5? for syncopated, polyrhythmic stuff?

I don't think jjos can do this.
There's a slight chance the simultaneous sequence feature could do it, but I haven't used that, so I don't know. I would guess not though.


If you mean just having sequences that are different lengths (where tracks in the sequence are all the same length, and you can then chain together those different-length sequences), then yes.
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By consuming Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:48 pm
If you are looking to have the multiple loops of different measures, check into the pattern-to-pad function. You basically convert tracks of any lengths into patterns triggered by striking the pads. It can create some pretty complex stuff.
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By bliprock Wed Jun 19, 2013 5:01 pm
sci guy dropped the ball somewhat there, consuming is on it though.
You can also loop a sample. Its as simple as that, if its right bpm and you place it in right spot in time of your track, then that to. Also simult sequence means the same, play a whole sequence with different length at the same time.

Track to pattern to pad is the thing to use as you can loop it and or one shot em, and also do this all with midi not just samples making it very powerful tool.
By LogaRhytmus Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:01 pm
thanks all


this i meant

"If you mean just having sequences that are different lengths (where tracks in the sequence are all the same length, and you can then chain together those different-length sequences), then yes."

what is the name the feature and which jjos has it? :hmmm:
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By consuming Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:15 pm
The function you quoted can be accomplished in Song Mode, by chaining sequences together and then Converting it to a longer sequence.

However, to clarify: multiple simultaneous tracks make up sequences, and chained together sequences are songs. As of now, track lengths within a sequence must be the same per sequence. Sequences of varying lengths can be placed together end-on-end to create songs.

I previously described a work-around method for creating compositions of varying track lengths. Available in JJOSXL. Not sure about JJOS3.
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By crossings Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:30 pm
ThobRom wrote:He should probably start on 2xl anyway, eh?



why? makes no sense if he's already interested in getting JJOS.


sciguy gave the best/easiest method for accomplishing what the OP wants, which is by using Simultaneous Sequence [available even in JJOS1]... only downside is that it only allows you to simultaneously play 2 sequences at the same time... but with that method you could easily play let's say a 3-bar drum loop on top of a 4-bar loop or whatever you want to accomplish.
By LogaRhytmus Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:25 pm
am i right to start with jjos 1 to upgrade to osxl? (no direct install of the jjosxl)
i think the best would be to start with the basic stuff (free and os1) and upgrade later on my needs...
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By ThobRom Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:32 pm
sciguy wrote:Do you mean something like having one track looping 4 beats while another loops 5? for syncopated, polyrhythmic stuff?



A 20 beat would do that.

And love me back on the one.

But if you meant "live" off beat loops...
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By ThobRom Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:35 pm
crossings wrote:
ThobRom wrote:He should probably start on 2xl anyway, eh?



why? makes no sense if he's already interested in getting JJOS.


Because 2xl has 98 percent of its functions squared?!

And that we're still hoping that 3 becomes 2xl?

But with smarter code...
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By crossings Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:56 pm
JJOS1 is pretty damn solid. it's all i use. i don't really even bother with later versions since i don't need too many of the added features. i will get around to trying out OS3 once the bugs have been ironed-out though.



ThobRom wrote:2xl has 98 percent of its functions squared?!

And that we're still hoping that 3 becomes 2xl?

But with smarter code...




but he's asking about JJ... so he obviously doesn't have a 2000XL. no need to make him go and buy another MPC when the same SS feature available in the 2000XL is also available in JJOS.
By LogaRhytmus Sat Jun 22, 2013 6:10 pm
yes, i have the mpc 1000.
i think i need os 1 to start. am i right that os1 is important to all the other jjos?
if this is true i need os1 to upgrade to the other os later.
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By crossings Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:16 pm
yes you're assumption is correct. you need OS1 in order to later upgrade to higher versions.