One bar loops

Yeah Xxplosive. I've heard Dre being referred as the master of 1 bar loops.

Anyways, I try to add 2 bar bassline similiar to the Dre beat and see if it works.

Side note: Starting the sample on 2, or placing the snare on the one and kick on the two sometimes makes it sound waaay better.

There's **** loads of shit you can do to a **** one bar loop.

Use your filters and cut off the hi and mids to get the bass solo, now cut the lows and get the instrument solo. Throw those solos to tracks and mute them accordingly to your needs. Also for some variation, chop up that one bar and rearrange the chops for some chorus.

Here's an example of mine.

This beat by s.raw is dope as hell and its pretty much a 1 bar loop.

Also madlib does a lot of 1 bar loops and they come out dope

I do a lot of 2 bar loops.I tweek the beat on the fly (filters,adsr ect on the fly)plus muting/unmuting plus start stop the sequencer.Also you can apply lfo s to constantly change the sound.A lot of my stuff below is done like this

If it's a one bar loop, you'd need to have a lot of changes going on with everything else, especially the drums. You probably would want to keep it rather short, too. Around the 1m mark. That's about the time when someone's going to hit next anyway.

Another thing you could do is adjust the pitch, and play the same loop, but as a different note. Maybe the 5th, 7th, 9th, or 12th note of whatever key it's in? Unless you're strictly trying to keep it a one bar loop.

I don't know, man. I'm just throwing out ideas here.

Lots of 90s hip-hop used 1 and 2 bar loops, lots of Gang Starr, House of Pain, Cypress Hill, Ghostface comes to mind.

I personally like looping stuff my favorite hip hop records are loops and I think chopping is so automatic for some that it makes little sense musically when I hear it. I loop my stuff 90% of the time.

If a loop and drums are dope enough you don't need any changes I think of lots of Gangstarr stuff hardly ever changes drum patterns within tracks and loops were jazz loops very little was changed by Primo on those joints.

bearhead wrote:If it's a one bar loop, you'd need to have a lot of changes going on with everything else, especially the drums. You probably would want to keep it rather short, too. Around the 1m mark. That's about the time when someone's going to hit next anyway.

Another thing you could do is adjust the pitch, and play the same loop, but as a different note. Maybe the 5th, 7th, 9th, or 12th note of whatever key it's in? Unless you're strictly trying to keep it a one bar loop.

I don't know, man. I'm just throwing out ideas here.

Yepp, so many 1 bar loops in the 90s. But that doesn't mean boring stuff because if you have 4 or 5 1-bar loops all layered on each other you can still arrange but it seem that many people doesn't want to put loops on each other.
For example listen to Del "Mistadobalina"

1. A one-bar drumloop
2. A one-bar bassloop wich also contains guitar
3. A one-bar voxloop
4. An 808 Kick
5. 2 drumfills for the refrain
6. a few horn samples for the refrain

thats it

oh wait

of course I forgot one thing


Del


peace

n4l wrote:I have made a few beats recently that are 1 bar loops that surely sound dope but they're still boring at the same time.
While every sample and beat has it's own unique characteristics and that's why every method doesn't work on any beat, is there still any general tips on how to make one bars loop sound more interesting?

chop the same one bar loop but try chopping a few diff variations of it if possible........might be a part further down in track with same loop / extra elements.....

check both sides of signal

that said im not madlib when it comes to using 1 bar loops, and have a tendency to turn off

peeping tom wrote:check both sides of signal

And if you use Recycle you can comp the L+R into a third Mono take on the loop, walk with 3 samples off one. I'm sure other stuff can do that too. Recycle is the easiest way for me to do all my loop/chop work.

Metatron72 wrote:

peeping tom wrote:check both sides of signal

And if you use Recycle you can comp the L+R into a third Mono take on the loop, walk with 3 samples off one. I'm sure other stuff can do that too. Recycle is the easiest way for me to do all my loop/chop work.

yeah, an mpc

record mono left
record mono right
record stereo > in TRIM stereo L+R - Mono

i dont touch a PC when i sample, and i just gave a bunch of homies a sammich, buttered and all. enjoy.

Not a fan of one bar loops as it's pretty simple to chop and create something more interesting from it. That said, if you have plenty of stuff on top of it, i.e. vocals, instruments etc, it may not matter, and perhaps the monotony of the same drum pattern all the way through may be beneficial to allowing people to focus on the stuff going over it.

Still, pretty sure you could still work something in there, i.e. some fills at least, we have the technology...

MPC-Tutor wrote:we have the technology...

dryad-66 wrote:

HA sampled that the other day for a one bar shot

https://soundcloud.com/peepingtomthumb/ ... 1-roughmix