Still starting out, confused what to buy

Hey everybody,

well for starters I have never operated an MPC or any sort of drum machine type sampler ever in my entire life... so please bear with me

I had my eyes set on an MPC1000 at first but then I saw the MV8000 online and now im torn on which one to buy. Im a guitarist and I really want to get into making music (not just beats) and i wanted a unit that can provide that without using a computer... I thought that the MPC1000 was perfect for my needs but then I saw the MV and I liked how it was an all-encompassing music center with all of these options and effects and what not.

well ill try to keep my questions simple here:

which would be better for me seeing as Im a guitarist and am planning on plugging a guitar and effects in?

does an MPC1000 + reason or any software provide the same functionality the MV8000 does?

I read that reviews that say that the MV was all of these options (but they're all half assed) and the MPC keeps it simple.... but a counter point was that you need to really how to use the MV to get the best out of it... so I dont know whats that about

what do you guys think and please bear in mind that im still starting out in this game and all

peace and love

well the MV has many effects onboard including your typical guitar type effects... that may be an attraction even if they aren't analog ones. Also, not sure how well the 1000 can handle a guitar plugged right directly into the back... but the MV can do that no problem.. there is a knob to go from line level to instrument level.. and mics etc...

the MV, you can record right into ram like how the 1000 does it, but there is a way to record long takes right onto the hard drive... but even recording into ram you have 512 megs which is 4 times more than the 1000's max.


yes, it takes a bit of time digging into the MV... it's just a different tool than the 1000. it's way bigger.. heavier... and I can't really agree about all the multitudes of features being half assed. While yes... a daw is way more powerful today... the MV basically is a DAW in a box with pads.

id say if you were just trying to flip some samples like vinyl clips or what ever.. slam out some drums.. etc.. go the 1000. But if you might be thinking of trying to do more complex stuff, audio tracks, more instrumentation.. maybe add vocals.. the MV can do that in the box.

Yeah you'd need a DI box or a Hi-Z input on an interface that incorporates either going into the 1000.

Metatron72 wrote:Yeah you'd need a DI box or a Hi-Z input on an interface that incorporates either going into the 1000.

what???

anyways

so your saying that an MPC couldnt handle a guitar plugged directly into the back??? what if it goes through a audio inyerface + effects then to the MPC?

Co-sign Debauch.

The MV can be overwhelming and you will be crying to the forums about of how sissy-orientated you are that you couldn't handle a production studio module. So back off the MV, its a man's tool. Ok?

I recommend the 1000 for its ease of use and you'll make out with it real fast. Do beware, old 1000s had issues, they are the blue and red panels one. Stay away from them. Try to get a maxed out black one, thats the best Akai can do.

A guitar plugged direct into the back of an MPC isn't going to sound great, whether acoustic or electric guitar.

I don't know the MV at all, but it might have some better amp/speaker simulation type effects for a direct electric guitar.

Or, your existing guitar effects might have a perfectly useable amp/speaker simulator, and you use that to get a decent guitar sound into the MPC.

Maged wrote:

Metatron72 wrote:Yeah you'd need a DI box or a Hi-Z input on an interface that incorporates either going into the 1000.

what???

anyways

so your saying that an MPC couldnt handle a guitar plugged directly into the back??? what if it goes through a audio inyerface + effects then to the MPC?

Yes that's what I'm saying. But most computer audio interfaces can handle the guitar's output with their inputs. But of course you'd need to use the interface's routing software if it includes that to route the inputted guitar signal to it's output and send that to the MPC, or some kind of DAW software to handle the routing.

DI boxes are a way around having to use a computer/audio interface in the case of something like an MPC to get a proper signal from a guitar into it.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jun02/a ... iboxes.asp

There's cheap ones to expensive ones. Like anything I'm sure the quality varies with the investment. It's not something I ever do myself but I know that's one method to do what you're asking

fck it, just get a 2500... you can find them for the same price as some 1000s these days

^Good point.

Most you'll need is an air can to clean it out. Sure beats pad fixes/fat pad upgrades and shopping for tilt stands.

So I was in the same situation and opted AGAINST the mv, and got the 5000 which can record and process external audio (vocals/gtr). Apart from the color screen and the pixel jam visualizer, I think the mpc 5000 has all the features. In addition, u can record at a higher sampling rate, although the mv is high enough. But more importantly, more support and community around the mpc, like mpc stuff, tutorials, samples etc...but then again, everyone is flocking to the digital options, but I think for hardware, the mv 8800, mpc 5k/4k, are the best and will accomplish what u need.