Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By Envyzbl Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:11 am
I still don't understand how to properly use time stretching. I always avoid it since its too complicated for me to input the bpm. its default setting is around 700 or something which is weird. I just end up using tune if I need to speed or slow something down.

I noticed that time stretch does more of an intense alteration of the sample. am I missing out if I don't learn how to use this feature? I feel like I am.
By ntalec Sun Aug 04, 2013 3:05 pm
Envyzbl wrote:I still don't understand how to properly use time stretching. I always avoid it since its too complicated for me to input the bpm. its default setting is around 700 or something which is weird. I just end up using tune if I need to speed or slow something down.

I noticed that time stretch does more of an intense alteration of the sample. am I missing out if I don't learn how to use this feature? I feel like I am.


You should try to find a few dollars and get Tutors book for your MPC.
If you have that the manual doesn't click for you it's your best bet.
They are reasonably priced so it shouldn't be hard to purchase and would give a really good return.

With that said tune doesn't do the same as time stretch so using it instead missing the function of time stretch.
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By Lampdog Sun Aug 04, 2013 3:15 pm
Op has a 2kxl. Timestretch sucks, I never use it. Takes a long time to process. Anything over a 10-15% stretch will sound unnatural. Start the process, go watch a movie, have a beer and pizza cause it will be a while before finishing.
By Doc333 Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:56 pm
from what I have heard, the time stretch isnt great. You can get audacity for free, that time stretch is much better. An added advantage, is that it is given in terms of key. So it will say origianl F stretch up (or down) to C and it will do it. u can also edit the song to get just the section u want plus plenty other effects, not bad for free!

I also have the "beat cleaver" demo. I actually did not like it that much for chopping (its main function) but the reason I bring it up is that it has time stretch that has "preserve spectral characteristics" which results in a less "artifact-y" sounding sample. So that would be my recommendation is to use a better time stretch function in another software, then laod it to the mpc.

Again, there will always be limits to how much stuff can be stretched and sound good. if yr using vinyl can use the slider and the 45 setting to speed it up and use less processing
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By Scherer Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:13 pm
Have to admit that I love the MPCs' timestretch! :)

Some weeks ago I had to compress a 5 minutes spoken moderation but failed with my pro audio editor (Wave Editor) which even uses special algorithms by iZotope. Tried on my MPC then and it just worked perfect, with stretching the voice to 95% of the original tempo. No artifacts, everything smooth.

And I even love it for more drastic stretches... had an S-2000 sampler long time ago and use that typical Akai stretch a lot. Use it with 200% or 400% on loops... bit experimental but great!
By ntalec Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:35 pm
Doc333 wrote:from what I have heard, the time stretch isnt great. You can get audacity for free, that time stretch is much better. An added advantage, is that it is given in terms of key. So it will say origianl F stretch up (or down) to C and it will do it. u can also edit the song to get just the section u want plus plenty other effects, not bad for free!

I also have the "beat cleaver" demo. I actually did not like it that much for chopping (its main function) but the reason I bring it up is that it has time stretch that has "preserve spectral characteristics" which results in a less "artifact-y" sounding sample. So that would be my recommendation is to use a better time stretch function in another software, then laod it to the mpc.

Again, there will always be limits to how much stuff can be stretched and sound good. if yr using vinyl can use the slider and the 45 setting to speed it up and use less processing


Just have to remember that the back and forth to the computer breaks the workflow many are after.
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By dopedee Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:02 pm
Lampdog wrote:Op has a 2kxl. Timestretch sucks, I never use it. Takes a long time to process. Anything over a 10-15% stretch will sound unnatural. Start the process, go watch a movie, have a beer and pizza cause it will be a while before finishing.


Its noooott that bad... you could prob get away with making a sandwich and eating it though :lol: :lol: :WTF:
By lightsleeper Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:50 am
I use 2KXL and S950, the timestretch on both works great for me. Get the sample as close as you can with the turntable, sample in and timestretch to fit. I use it all the time and never have had an issue.
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By Lampdog Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:02 am
That's because you get it as close as you can on TT. That means there's not alot of processing that has to go on inside the mpc. But ALOT of people don't do that and the set unnatural settings in timestretch and THAT'S when the sammich needs to be made and enjoyed while that bullshit is processing, lol.

I always say 10-15% for close to natural sound of sample and processing time.