Rolling descending Bass

I have been using the 2k XL for a while now... not suere if this has been asked before but is it possible to create Descending ROLLING bass in a linear straight line as if you were turning a Pitch wheel on a bass modulator or Pitch effect processor.. I hear this sound alot in todays music, Dub Step.. Like Boooooooooooooooooooooom but the pitch is rolling down in frequency..... Can this be pulled off with the XL?

Thanks Lamp! Been a minute since I've talked you man!! good looking out!

BM

keep in mind the technique lamp suggested will not be continuous - it will only change pitch each time you hit the hit pad (retrigger the sound). it sounds good on toms / snares for rolls.
is that what you mean by 'rolling'?

one hacked way to do continuous is to set the resonance all the way up, set filter cutoff all the way down, turn filter envelope all the way up, and turn filter decay all the way up. you can adjust how high it goes by adjusting filter envelope.

that is probably not what you want but will do a descending pitch slide.

Lampdog wrote:It's a "fake continuous" I use to call it back in the day.

The retrigger is in the loop, so you hold down the pad and it loops, thus catching the note variations anytime you move the slider.

there is no 'retrigger' in the loop - youd have to use note repeat and have it quantised.

there is no way to affect a sample with the filter on 2kxl after the sample has started playing, unless that effect is built into the envelope.

it applies the effect*/filter at the first trigger only.

when i first got my mpc, this really bothered me, coming from computers / synths etc. i eventually just learned to work with it. hence my experimenting with envelopes

* by effect i mean filter / volume - not even bringing eb16 into this

Lamp been using that 4k too much.

was there not some kind of feature that looped/retriggered a sound until you let go of the pad?

pretty sure there was, remember doing that at some point, note repeat was not needed at all.. so you could do that to a small portion of a sample and get continuous synth tones this way

such as, and this is on the 2kxl btw



and then you just use pitch on the slider whilst holding a pad, and you get something that would mimic pitchbending

as for single cycle waveforms, there are lots here to download and play around with, however, i am not sure the mpc can actually read them all if the files are too small... and if not, you should still be able to do it within the mpc, using a larger sample - http://www.adventurekid.se/akrt/wavefor ... waveforms/

Ibunshi wrote:was there not some kind of feature that looped/retriggered a sound until you let go of the pad?

you can 'loop' a sample, but the note variation will not sweep while you hold down the pad, it only changes with each actual note on/off retrigger.

you can fake it with envelopes, but on these machines, you can only get a new note variation with each new note.

this is really important to know, as it is sort of an outdated way of working - most everything these days is realtime. as i mentioned, this really confused me coming from a computer when i took a 'step back' and went 2kxl. still, i can appreciate it, work around it, and actually enjoy it now.

Will 16 levels and note repeat do the trick?

Because, thats what I do