time to retire the 5000... really!

So I was just working on a a few tracks.



my man flux302 said yo put that up on soundcloud. i said to myself I should save right quick. well I went on and started making more tracks.but i did bounce this one down first.

so somewhere between posting and making more tracks the damn 5000 just restarted and began to initialize.... it all went bye-bye. this wave file is all i have left of it.

how does the saying go? i love u but you got to go!
http://instagram.com/p/f9SEf2pl9y/

yeah.. **** that kind of thing is a total piss off...


maybe get the 4000 and put the 5000 on the shelf for a while..

thats **** man, how many tracks did you lose?

that beat was super ILL!

i think you can pretty much turn the 4k into a synth too, i know it would take a long time to be as good as the 5k one, but it would be worth thinking about getting one like debauch said.

Yeah... Really **** up. I lost like 5 joints from that particular session. Funny u mention the 4k. That's what I wanted initially but then the 5k came out and my wife copped it for me on the next Xmas. 4k not a bad idea. But I'm gonna have to rock the MPC 60 II for now. But yeah I just may box the 5000 up for a good while. I can't have this shit happening

I'd just sell it and move onto something else. Maschine Studio maybe?

You've got the MPC Studio so at least you can load your old 5K programs.

Coz wrote:I'd just sell it and move onto something else. Maschine Studio maybe?

You've got the MPC Studio so at least you can load your old 5K programs.

Unless they have made major changes in the sequencing, which they haven't Maschine is still not a replacement for any MPC if you are really using the MPC in a real way.

It's still more of a have them both product.

ntalec wrote:Maschine is still not a replacement for any MPC if you are really using the MPC in a real way.

As opposed to using it in a fake way?!

The only "real" way to use these sequencers is to switch the quantize off, and if you do you'll find there's not a lot of difference in the end result.

Coz wrote:

ntalec wrote:Maschine is still not a replacement for any MPC if you are really using the MPC in a real way.

As opposed to using it in a fake way?!

The only "real" way to use these sequencers is to switch the quantize off, and if you do you'll find there's not a lot of difference in the end result.

Not even close to true.
Maschine just takes far too much effort to get anything rhythmic out of it.
Doesn't matter if the quantize is on or off, it's an awkwardly built sequencer for certain types of grooves.
Not that it can't be done but for the amount of effort it takes to get certain grooves from Maschine, it's just simpler to use something else.

This is probably gonna be one of the biggest advantages of the MIDI import in v2, you can now easily get sequencer data into Maschine from more effective sequencers.

Your statements almost make me think you have never dealt with the sequencing in Maschine.

For me the maschine sequencer and sound texture/attitude was/is dead.No vibe.Apart from that it is an awsome sample...........lol

edit-comparatively the 5k was/is awesome for getting a groove together.Reall nice feeling sequencer and pokey/raw sampling.Gotta love hardware.

I will tell you I am cool with either maschine or studio which I have both but I'd prefer a stand alone unit. ALSo I ain't really on spending no more loot. I'm rocking the 60ii but that 4000 idea sounds good. Still the convenience of the synth built in on the 5000 will be missed I actually really Dig that synth. Got a couple of special patches that I made like thT bass I used in that track above. One of my favs

"so somewhere between posting and making more tracks the damn 5000 just restarted and began to initialize.... it all went bye-bye. this wave file is all i have left of it."

This happened to me twice in the one night, but never again (so far).It seems the 5000 is super sensitive to current fluctuations from the mains voltage, more so than any other MPC. Though I wouldn't be sure on how to verify this behavior; it is not new, as a few people have suffered this occurrence.

wavemartian wrote:"so somewhere between posting and making more tracks the damn 5000 just restarted and began to initialize.... it all went bye-bye. this wave file is all i have left of it."

This happened to me twice in the one night, but never again (so far).It seems the 5000 is super sensitive to current fluctuations from the mains voltage, more so than any other MPC. Though I wouldn't be sure on how to verify this behavior; it is not new, as a few people have suffered this occurrence.

yeah it sucks bro. I had just removed a cable from the headphones jack nothing else had changed.

wavemartian wrote:"so somewhere between posting and making more tracks the damn 5000 just restarted and began to initialize.... it all went bye-bye. this wave file is all i have left of it."

This happened to me twice in the one night, but never again (so far).It seems the 5000 is super sensitive to current fluctuations from the mains voltage, more so than any other MPC. Though I wouldn't be sure on how to verify this behavior; it is not new, as a few people have suffered this occurrence.

I been trying to lock the soluction to this problem for so long. The problem gets worse to the point my 5k errors on boots from ranbom restarts. I been doing my homework and found out the mpc5k shares some the same parts with the Alesis Fusion 6HD/8HD. The funny part is the Fusion replacement parts are identical to 5k parts, but a lot cheaper. Here a link.

http://promusicproducts.com/forum/phpBB ... t=5933&f=2


Check out the Fusion 6HD - 8HD and MPC5000 Parts comparison.pdf.

Heavie wrote:...the mpc5k shares some the same parts with the Alesis Fusion 6HD/8HD. The funny part is the Fusion replacement parts are identical to 5k parts, but a lot cheaper.

that is crazy but totally makes sense. i wonder how much a 5000 is just a chopped up, stripped down, fusion in a different case...anyone who has used both could comment on that.

psr wrote:I'm rocking the 60ii but that 4000 idea sounds good. Still the convenience of the synth built in on the 5000 will be missed

i wonder how comparable some single cycle samples in the 4k sampling engine would be. unless the 5k synth did something really special.

tapedeck wrote:

psr wrote:I'm rocking the 60ii but that 4000 idea sounds good. Still the convenience of the synth built in on the 5000 will be missed

i wonder how comparable some single cycle samples in the 4k sampling engine would be. unless the 5k synth did something really special.

I was under the impression that the 5k synth was the Alesis synth engine.

Looking at the Fusion specs, maybe it is the same as the Fusion virtual analogue synth section?

If so, it would probably be setup to do the synth stuff a lot easier than trying to do it with the 4k.