Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By EnokTheThief Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:49 pm
So Does Pitch Shifting change the key of a sample? I thought that pitch shifting or even just changing the pitch of a sample just slowed the sample down or sped it up but the sample still stayed in the same key, kind of like just changing the octave of the sample.
I'm sure this is a stupid question to many on this board but I'm pretty new to making beats and music theory in general.
As you can see i still have much to learn but if someone could help me out i'd appreciate it.
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By poundaproblem Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:58 pm
the short answer yes.

Pitch is basically how high or low a note is. Also known as the key. If you increase the pitch you increase the key. In terms of sampling this also changes the speed (tempo). if you want to slow up or speed up a sample but keep the key then time stretch is what you need. All covered in your manual.
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By Fung45 Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:52 pm
What you are talking about Enok is key-lock, which some companies call time stretching. Other people call time-stretching the opposite; locking the tempo(length) and shifting the pitch. Pitch/key is also known as tuning. Just remember every sound has a pitch/tune/key which can be shifted up or down. Without a keylock or time stretch capability, this shifting will effect the length of the sound (higher=shorter, lower=longer).
By Mark Madness Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:15 am
EnokTheThief wrote:So Does Pitch Shifting change the key of a sample? I thought that pitch shifting or even just changing the pitch of a sample just slowed the sample down or sped it up but the sample still stayed in the same key, kind of like just changing the octave of the sample.
I'm sure this is a stupid question to many on this board but I'm pretty new to making beats and music theory in general.
As you can see i still have much to learn but if someone could help me out i'd appreciate it.



The definition of pitch in the music sense... to set at a particular pitch, or determine the key or keynote of (a melody).

Got that from dictionary.com

Not trying to bring up technical definitions to make you seem slow man I am tryin to make you understand it best, I had to go look it up to figure out the easiest way to answer your question.

So ya, the pitch of a music note would determine what note that is, so changing the pitch of a sample does in fact change the key of it.

The reason that when you change the pitch of a sample and it slows down or speeds up is to my knowledge because most programs changing pitch accomidate the speed it takes for the sample to play normal without sounding distorted. But yes like poundaproblem said that the time stretch feature in the MPC's let you slow the sample down or speed it up or make it stay the same tempo as you change the pitch.

I dont know about other MPCs because I only have and ever had 1 and its the 5000 but I think if theyre all generally the same, upload a sample and go to the trim mode and use the edit features and mess around.
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By peterpiper Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:59 am
I think the problem here is that people used and use wrong words for the different functions.

Ok now what do we have:

pitching / pitch adjust / tuning : This is changing the tuning / pitch / key of a sample while the tempo slows down or get faster. Just like most of the turntables do when using the pitchfader or the 33/45 buttons. Or a reel to reel machine or cassette.

pitch shift: A pitchshifter function will change the pitch/tuning without changing the tempo. Some multi FX gear got this function.


time strech: This is changing the tempo while the tuning/pitch is locked to the original.

Some people (also manufactures of gear) used the term "pitch shift" when actual what the gear does is pitching/tuning or they use the term "pitch" when its pitch shifting. Thats why there is still a lack of clarity.

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