Making your own drum library vs chopping every time

When i start making new beat i always prefer to chop a new break/one shots from my vinyl. But i think now that having my own favorite one shots/break chops floppies for my SP1200 and S950 will be truly right choice! I do not use libraries and stuff, only sampling from vinyl. How do you prefer and how do you organize your own libraries on floppies?

i recently made a set of drums chopped for situations where I quickly need some drums... but I pretty much always chop fresh... you truncate different according to the song each time.. so I prefer that.

When i listen to my fav producers i always hear the same beats. Dj Preemo, Lewis Parker, Grap Luva etc. i think they have like 10-15 kits and they just mix and layer them in different ways...

I got a lot of different drums on floppies, some breaks, some one hits, but some I reuse a lot, its natural to have a "favorite snare", but i dont have any floppies that just hold drums. Ill load a snare here, a kick here, etc etc.

I actually enjoy using floppys, its easy to organize a library.

I do both, I pretty much always chop up a break(from vinyl of course) of some sort, but I always use a ready made kit to layer, I think you should try both, I also use odd sounds as drums to, or to layer under, a hand held recorder can net you some very interesting results to.

Fresh chops mostly cos I'm too lazy to make a kit... doesn't make sense, does it?
Ah well... Gotta love chopping that vinyl

Fresh chop coz i like it better. Maybe i'll sample like very hot or just chop differently.

Plus its fun i really i like it

I do however still have a chord sample i used to put on every track for a good while

Mostly i just chop fresh tho

Using floppies works fine with me too. Can add a snare i like for example and just grab a disk

People really like chopping? My data wheel is broken so the cursor jumps back and forth which makes it incredibly painful thing to do. My MPC also has bad habits of restarting/tilting all of a sudden and jumping back to the main menu during adjusting chops (and I have to start all over again)... *pulls hair*

n4l wrote:People really like chopping? My data wheel is broken so the cursor jumps back and forth which makes it incredibly painful thing to do. My MPC also has bad habits of restarting/tilting all of a sudden and jumping back to the main menu during adjusting chops (and I have to start all over again)... *pulls hair*

that sucks...

the point behind chopping each track is because you will do it different every time... to suit the song..

I use Recycle almost exclusively for chopping. So I basically chop everything that comes into my hands. I get pretty obsessive and will gladly chop 100 joints that might only have 4 hits in a 2 beat time frame just to keep getting more singles. (Think Jamaican intro rolls jazz/soul joints that have that type of thing in the first 2 seconds...)

Personally I tend to just have all those foldered, even if it's just 4 beats along with full breaks. But it's all so organized and labeled well that I really don't lose much time just grabbing a few folders every time.

But yeah for most it comes down to a finite amount of go to sounds/layering favorites. Even with my method I use the same type of sounds a lot which is really the same difference.

I always say I am going to make some go to kits, but i never do. I guess I always use a diff kick and snare combo for every song I have ever done. I have used any number of kicks, snare, hats, claps, and such over and over, but rarely in the same combination.

I have folders with all kicks, or all snares, or, hats, or claps, etc.... and when I start putting something together, I go into each and grab, load, and go.

I have hundreds of one shots that I hardly use as they are all mostly different, but many have various similarities. I need to go thru all my percussion and slim down just how many I have, which in itself, will trim down my time surfing for what kick to use for that next joint.

* Nope, gonna keep them all, just cause of all the years I have been building up my collection, since the days of floppies full of mono sounds sampled at double speed (to save space) and tuned down for actual use in the sampler lol

n4l wrote:People really like chopping? My data wheel is broken so the cursor jumps back and forth which makes it incredibly painful thing to do. My MPC also has bad habits of restarting/tilting all of a sudden and jumping back to the main menu during adjusting chops (and I have to start all over again)... *pulls hair*

Jumping screens used to drive me nuts on my MPC2500. I got tired of the constantly broken buttons, jumping screens, polyphony oddness and other quirks so now I use an MPC3000.

Back to OP, I have made some good-sounding programs and spent quite a bit of time creating sampled kicks, snares, hats, etc but I always sample fresh as well when making a track.

jimmie wrote:

n4l wrote:Back to OP, I have made some good-sounding programs and spent quite a bit of time creating sampled kicks, snares, hats, etc but I always sample fresh as well when making a track.

I have to agree with this.
Just seems to always yield a more cohesive track when you sample as you go even though you have an extensive library.

Maybe that they are more focused toward you mental state who knows?

I prefer to sample/chop, starting fresh each time. I have a few "go-to working" kits of one-shots that I can load up when ever I want to feel something out... after that, it's sample/chopping time.

Often times, I end up recording (or sampling & chopping) me playing one of my kits. Been playing drums for too long to just "waste" it (as some people may perceive it).


Simplicity:
- Go-to single shot programs with blank pads so I can add unique sounds per-session.
- Once I get my verses/choruses sketched out, I go sample breaks/me drumming.
- Chop as I want, play them as I want.
- Play with layering if I feel like it.

I chop fresh everytime. I made a drum kit before and didn't like it, never used it and deleted it shortly after I made it. The strange thing is I don't know why I didn't like the drum kit I made.something about chopping must do it for me even if it may be more work.

I do have my records marked usually so I know which ones have drums on them because I dont use the drum library vinyls either.