Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By dmajor100 Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:53 am
there must be more than a few sampling techniques out there not just the basic sampling on the kick and snare to temp sync it. Why is there really no online courses or youtube videos showing advanced sampling techniques? seems like people wanna download free vat packs and steal from pirate bay but dnt wanna give there own secrets away.
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By Metatron72 Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:51 am
Anything you'd ever want to know about sampling is in this forum's archives.

You've got recording a loop to a sampler. Trim and chop that loop into pieces. Assign the slices to keys or pads.

There's the old low end theory technique of taking a copy of a loop you are using that has a reasonable amount of low end frequencies. Put it through a low pass filter and make a bass line that matches the non filtered copy of the loop.

Stuff like how Pete Rock switched from an SP1200 to a MPC 2000XL. He found the XL lacking in low end punch and some other shortcomings in sound compared to his SP1200. He got into the habit of EQ'ing the sample as he recorded it to compensate.

Then there's multi sampling where you would play a synth or an electric piano or whatever and record notes in chromatic order. Then you assign those in a sampler that supports multi sample to keys/pads and make a playable instrument.

You can make playable instruments of any sample or samples but multi sampling is the method where you are trying to get an octave or more of notes in chromatic musical order. A loop played at different pitches or sliced into a kit or instrument is only going to have the music notes that are in the sample.

Then there's various things you can do where you set your sample's start and end points, one example being to be able to get different variations of it off the same pad.

Then there's linking samples on different pads to trigger by only hitting one pad. A High Hat+Kick drum is a common example of why you'd do that.

And there's also velocity layering where how hard you press the pad/key will determine which sample plays or even multiple layers. That is set up by assign where in the range of 0-127 MIDI values the sample(s) will trigger. Generally 4 layers per pad on most modern MPC's. Or you can not set any values and just have 2-4 sample trigger of one pad press. In that case you use EQ and envelope settings to make the different "glue" into one fatter sound.

That's a common thing in sample layering maybe get the initial attack sound of one layer and let another layer provide the sustain and decay. And example of that would be layering an acoustic kick with an 808 kick with a long decay. Re-pitch them to match and make a composite sound from the two layers.

Just search the archives with these keywords in my post or Google the same. Anything you want to know is here and out there across the web. But to get it all at once, you'd probably need a friend that can sit down with you and show you all this first hand. But the web can take the place of that very easily if you do the digging for posts/articles and videos. Just need to know the terms to search for and then it's on.
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By Lampdog Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:23 pm
dmajor100 wrote:but dnt wanna give there own secrets away.

Secrets are something that you don't give away or tell.
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By Metatron72 Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:24 pm
True, but really what he's asking aren't the secrets. That would be where I get my sounds from and what they are. And even much of that can be revealed with no detriment to the one revealing it. :mrgreen:
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By Lampdog Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:39 pm
I recently got gb's of sounds from a friend who got them from somewhere else, they are outstanding to my ears, haven't had turntables since 1990, I don't plan on getting any.

Get sounds from my turbophatt, xl lead, mophatt, world expedition and beat garden roms installed. Triton Extreme, several sample cd's I have from years past, several kits I've made from dvd's/cd's/cassettes/mini discs and laser discs in past years, kitchen pots, pans, pencils on my glass table, mic taped to a salt shaker, mic taped to an almost empty grits box for a NICE shaker, everywhere, etc etc. Video games too, of course.

Sampling secrets, like, what, freqs I filter, processing before/while sampling, etc, mine, mine mine, not to be shared. :lol:
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By distortedtekno Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:57 am
I like experimenting with external effects hooked up before the recording input(s). I have a few DIY guitar pedals (2 fuzz, 1 overdrive, 1 amp sim, and an optical compressor. I also have the Acid Screamer Distortion/Overdrive (built for the TB-303, but works awesome on drums too), a cheap ART Tube Pre to warm up, fatten, or naturally tube-distort any signal, and I also recently picked up an old Digitech Genesis 3 Guitar Processor which really makes things even more interesting. It's a great way to sample things like this because it gives you the hands-on experimenting ahead of time. When you find the tone you like, sample it and keep experimenting. :)
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By Ill-Green Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:21 pm
My secret is that I spend a week listening to potential albums with samples to grab (In spanish, recording means "grabar". So like a matador, you be the grabador :P ) I listen until I get sick of them, then thats when loops will play again and again in my head and things go wild in my head because then other song samples are layering over the mind loop. This is all in the mentals btw. Then like a possessed step child, I hit the studio knowing what to do and where to grab and chop. People think I got magic but little do they know what goes on behind closed eyes.
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By sciguy Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:02 pm
Julien Drumz?

More like, Poo-lien Crumbz! :fku: :fku: :smoker: :smoker: :WTF: :hmmm: :nod: :popcorn: :popcorn: :twisted: :roll: :mrgreen: :x :WTF: :WTF:

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