SimonInAustralia wrote:Airyck wrote:The problem with just copying the settings between sequences:
Single mixer when the Master mixer option is chosen, just like Song Mode.
Even in song mode each sequence is a separate mixer, what happens is that the settings from all other sequences except the 1st one get discarded. I'm sure the reason for this is that once you lay out a song with sequences you have the ability to convert that song into one sequence, to do that there needed to be a solution for what to do with all the different settings between sequences. This was their solution; discard everything except the first sequence settings. Though it still does not combine the mixer into one mixer until you convert the song (set of separate sequences) into one sequence.
It's definitely not ideal and requires that you have an understanding of whats happening in each mode in order to use it effectively. In this case it makes no sense to spend any time mixing any of your other sequences with the track mixer if you plan to string them together into one song via song mode. It will just discard everything you worked on (except the first sequence). So to use song mode you really need to refrain from using the track mixer until you are ready to convert the song into one sequence.
This is not up to date with the way people work today. In the past processors were limited and expensive so people recorded everything first, and then in a completely separate step did the mix where they added their limited number of compressors, EO's, and other FX on individual channels or groups of sounds. Today the creation, recording, and mixing process have blended into each other because of the increase of power and virtually unlimited inserts. A lot of peoples' sound is derived not only from the sequence of notes they choose but the way they shape their timbres being used as well as their general relationship with each other. This has cause us to do a fair amount of mixing while we create. When I finish a song it's usually 90% of the way to a finished mix and this is not something that the track mixer is designed to do. It's more like the ways of old where it's used to do the final mix.
The upside of the track mixer is that you can have a multitude of sequences each with a completely different mix allowing you to use each sequence as a complete song for performance purposes.
This leaves us with the program mixer, which does not allow us to put FX on groups of sounds like the track mixer does. Also if we want to use FX on any individual sounds like EQ or compression then we can no longer use these sounds with group FX. This is why I believe (as I've repeated for the last year or more) that the best solution is to give us more submixes, with metering, and insert FX. Even if there is some other solution that comes up for the mixer problem, this needs to be done.
The mixing system is based on an outdated way of creating and mixing music, something needs to be done and this does seem like the simplest way to make that happen.
P.S. Hellfire knows this software in and out and is one of the few here that does… he definitely knows what he talking about when it comes to how the software works.
BTW: No offense to you Simon, wish it was that easy but it just doesn't currently function that way.
Cheers,
~Airyck~
It is software, they can make it do whatever they want.
