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By upinsmoke Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:10 am
So iv been using the impc app for the ipad and a few other programs a lot and have made some cool things but I think its time for me to move on to something that will let me add more tracks and have real pads.

So what I'm wondering is what MPC should I get for my first.
I make hip hop.
Iv been looking at both the mpc 1000 and the mpc studio

Tell me which you would chose and why and also what you think I should choose being someone whos new to mpcs.
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By tapedeck Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:14 am
being new, either one will probably be ok. both integrate with a computer fairly well (in completely different ways though).

if you go 1000, you'll probably start appreciating the old style.
if you go studio, i bet you move to a ren / maschine next.

its a new era for the 'mpc' :mrgreen:
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By SimonInAustralia Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:05 am
Being new to MPCs, as tapedeck says, you will not have the expectations of how hardware MPCs operate, and their workflow, so will not notice anything missing in MPC Software with an MPC Studio.

The MPC Studio does need to be connected to a computer, for operation with the included MPC Softare, while the MPC1000 is a standalone hardware unit, so that might affect your decision.
By dazastah Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:17 am
I'd say the 1k...

If your making sampled hiphop..
It's really easy to sample into mpc1k because you just plug in and sample it... If you got your phone you can sample straight of the internet, you just need the cable to go from the headphone out of your phone to the mpc analog inputs...
apply this to any sound source of sampling,, dj mixer ... synths mic pre amps...

When working with computers, it takes longer to get things working...

ie.. If you wanna sample from vynal, you have to purchase a audio interface(if using the mpc studio).. Make sure the drivers are installed properly .

then in the settings of the mpc software you;d have to make sure the inputs are chosen correctly n the prefs.. (if you buy a interface with more than 2 inputs and outputs)
Depending on the age of your computer, you'd have to playaround/adjust the buffer setting aswell..(a balance of giving the computer time to process the audio vs having it react as soon as you press a pad = latency)

The ren has a built in audio interface so you dont have to worry as much about assigning the inputs and outputs..

Fine if you done this before.. but A learning curve and time patience and reading if you haven't...

Also.. Consider this....

If you use your computer daw (like logic or cubase....) Like tapedeck said both mpcs will intergrate with it. But when it comes to using the daw as the sequencer to sequence your mpc, the hard ware one works multi timbral... .. The mpc studio when loaded as a plugin doens't.

If you like using vsts, then , mpc studio would be better as you can insert them inside the software...

A hardware mpc could still do this via midi, But you need a good understanding of how midi works...

I'm assuming you dont have a computer... If you bought a laptop for about 1k and the studio and a interface.. that's prob sitting around $1600....

mpc1k can be got for 500 to 600 second hand...

Mpc1k only has a max of 128mb to sample...
The software mpc studio is limited by your computer.. so your surpassing the hardware units with sample time in this regard... But if your making boombap sampled hiphop, you would probably not go past the 128mb limit if you sample and trim properly..
By reeloy Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:56 am
...go for the real thing....the music instrument....the standalone maschine....the classic over 20 years....

way better choice.

but.....

if so......keep on mind, you still need a computer to track out finally....for a final mix you'll always need some help from a daw....some logic, reaper, pro tools, cubase, dgital perfromer, ableton....whatsoever.....

and....

an audiointerface to record your stuff into it.....

with the new mpc controlers like studio or ren, you don't need that interface in first place....but in that moment where You wanna go serious, you'll need it anyway....

no way around....

so....go for the real thing.....

if you're still more into computer controlers, spent your bucks for a ni maschine....
By upinsmoke Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:26 pm
You guys are great thanks for all your help.

dazastah wrote:
If you got your phone you can sample straight of the internet, you just need the cable to go from the headphone out of your phone to the mpc analog inputs...outputs).


Okay so I get something like this https://www.google.ca/search?q=analog+o ... B492%3B427

And that RCA to headphone cable will let me sample from my phone?

Will I need a preamp as well to get the sound to show from my phone?
I was messing with my buds 2000 and we were just using my guitar amp as a preamp to record from vinyl but the amp obviously has no RCA inputs/outputs.



If someone could post on a slightly in depth walk through of how youd connect the phone to the mpc that would be greatly appreciated.

The main question I have now is when I plug my phone into my mpc via RCA to headphone jack will the audio show up when I try to sample it or do I need a deivce such as a preamp to amplify the sound so it can pick it up?

Thank you all for your help, great community here.
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By SimonInAustralia Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:46 pm
upinsmoke wrote:Okay so I get something like this https://www.google.ca/search?q=analog+o ... B492%3B427

And that RCA to headphone cable will let me sample from my phone?

This would be better...

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Or these adapters on the cable you posted...

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upinsmoke wrote:Will I need a preamp as well to get the sound to show from my phone?

No, straight into the MPC left/right record ins on the MPC rear panel.


upinsmoke wrote:I was messing with my buds 2000 and we were just using my guitar amp as a preamp to record from vinyl but the amp obviously has no RCA inputs/outputs.

If the turntable has phono outputs, you should go through a phono preamp, not a guitar preamp. If it has line outputs, you should go directly into the MPC.


upinsmoke wrote:If someone could post on a slightly in depth walk through of how youd connect the phone to the mpc that would be greatly appreciated.

Plug one end into the phone, the other end into the MPC.


upinsmoke wrote:The main question I have now is when I plug my phone into my mpc via RCA to headphone jack will the audio show up when I try to sample it or do I need a deivce such as a preamp to amplify the sound so it can pick it up?

You plug it into the rear panel left/right record in audio inputs, not the headphone output.

No preamp needed.
By upinsmoke Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:52 pm
Wow, thank you very much. I really love these forums.

My decision is clear now even if I have to wait a little longer to save for a good 1k thats what I want to do.

Big thanks to all of you who helped me with this issue, youve helped me greatly. :smoker: :-D
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By Lampdog Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:59 pm
1k w/ jjos
By upinsmoke Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:30 pm
Okay im just gonna go for the refurbished model with some upgrades from mpc stuff. Will it come with the "new pads" or are the new pads the thick ones?
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By SimonInAustralia Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:39 pm
The old style pads were a separate pad for each pad, and unreliable, while the new style pads are all 16 pads as one piece.

I would expect that a refurb MPC from them would have the new style pads, but you would have to ask them.
By upinsmoke Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:52 pm
Okay cool thanks, one very last thing. Will I be able to piece together a whole song with my sequences on the mpcs song mode? ( assuming the 1000 has song mode )
Or will I need a daw?
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By electric dragon Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:55 pm
upinsmoke wrote:Okay cool thanks, one very last thing. Will I be able to piece together a whole song with my sequences on the mpcs song mode? ( assuming the 1000 has song mode )
Or will I need a daw?

The 1K has a Song mode so yes, you should be able to use it standalone to do 'everything'.

I strongly advise you to go to the Akai website and read the PDF of the manual and/or watch some tutorial videos on youTube to check for features and workflow before you drop any money. ;)