Bug reports & end-user support for Akai's MPC Software 'controllers' including the new MPC Studio 2, the MPC Touch, MPC Renaissance & original MPC Studio and MPC StudioB lack.
By Art James Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:42 pm
so the new midi controllers come with MPC essentials… imo thats making the ren/studio not necessary with the controllers having the rens pads, if i can do what the mpc software can in essentials then why buy a Ren (audio interface?). having a hard time understanding why not focus on your highest priced product? i understand alai may have more synth minded ppl onstaff but where is the true MPC heads from the old school???!!!
i member seeing a vid of germane dupri when the Ren 1st came out . bryan cox was telling him it had issues then and to wait til they update a few times… then i see bryan cox posting beat vids with the machine studio. My point is I was pretty sure from what was said b4 the en dropped was they went to all the known producers (known for using the mpc to make beats) to get their input on making a software based mpc for more power and flexibility. I know for a fact none of them said leave out any features from the standalone units that they are really not needed. AND where are those guys now to further co-sign a product they supposedly help launch. Akai, Numark, or INmusic needs to get someone in touch with the mpc legacy to help bring the ren/studio up to par wit the rest of the MPC family. If a very young college student and teach a homeless person to code :WTF: then it shouldn't be hard to get a machine and make it into software!!! i mean look at all the plugins modeled after vintage hardware. When i sold my mpc 5000 for the machine mk1 i was floored by the visual workflow stolen from the mpc but when the Ren/Studio came out (which id rather have) i felt the beat gods have awaken. All in all all i wanted was a visual of the iconic workflow of the legendary MPC So please akai or who ever pleas take a look at all your hardware mpcs and see what they have that the ren dosent and find you a coder to put it in a update. Sorry for venting fellas but i invite u all to do the same cuz i think the ppl screaming for new midi controllers are being heard more cuz we don't get anything we as a group ask for smh… i have more to say so please chime in and if you know or talk to any reps tell them to pay attention to their hardcore fans…
By mpc60III Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:46 pm
+1 Trust me they will learn...

when all the software hackers crack into the software. EVERYBODY will have mpc software...no ren or studio needed..

just an mpd will do.

:WTF:


They need to focus on the ren more and NOT offer the software with these freaking controllers. It makes the ren and studio obsolete
By Art James Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:52 pm
mpc60III wrote:+1 Trust me they will learn...

when all the software hackers crack into the software. EVERYBODY will have mpc software...no ren or studio needed..

just an mpd will do.

:WTF:


They need to focus on the ren more and NOT offer the software with these freaking controllers. It makes the ren and studio obsolete


the short version of what i was saying lol
By mpc60III Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:35 pm
Art James wrote:
mpc60III wrote:+1 Trust me they will learn...

when all the software hackers crack into the software. EVERYBODY will have mpc software...no ren or studio needed..

just an mpd will do.

:WTF:


They need to focus on the ren more and NOT offer the software with these freaking controllers. It makes the ren and studio obsolete


the short version of what i was saying lol


hahahaha ! I got cha'

Making the new mpc's both standalone and software would of stopped this and helped keep its value... BUT maybe thats the direction they are going to go in after the release of all these controllers. I just hope they dont abandon it...but given Akai's history..I see that coming.


Even with the price drop. I dont see many going out buying a ren because the software is the only thing that would make it special and NOW EVERYONE and there grandparents are gonna have access to it. Not a good look.

I could be wrong. But I smell a ripp off report if they dont give ren/studio users at least 5 more updates. Im not speaking negative..im speaking common sense. Why would I got drop $800 bucks on a ren when I could just use the software. Biggest mistake ever putting that software in the bundle with the new controllers. Because what makes the ren/studio so special now ? It turns your "MPC" REN back into a simple controller.. but who cares right? they've got your money.

EVEN if your pleased with the updates yada yada yada .it works for you ect ect...still. you paid how much for you ren ?? Only to have your ren/studio software bundled with some keyboard controllers now.

As a studio owner I wouldnt feel bad at all. because you paid pretty much what an MPD customer would pay and have the official software..hmm maybe I should buy the studio :)

Please common sense responses...no fan boys please.

Art James is right.. WE need to make some noise ! We need some answers..
By Mr.ED77 Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:13 pm
Art James wrote:so the new midi controllers come with MPC essentials… imo thats making the ren/studio not necessary with the controllers having the rens pads, if i can do what the mpc software can in essentials then why buy a Ren (audio interface?). having a hard time understanding why not focus on your highest priced product? i understand alai may have more synth minded ppl onstaff but where is the true MPC heads from the old school???!!!
i member seeing a vid of germane dupri when the Ren 1st came out . bryan cox was telling him it had issues then and to wait til they update a few times… then i see bryan cox posting beat vids with the machine studio. My point is I was pretty sure from what was said b4 the en dropped was they went to all the known producers (known for using the mpc to make beats) to get their input on making a software based mpc for more power and flexibility. I know for a fact none of them said leave out any features from the standalone units that they are really not needed. AND where are those guys now to further co-sign a product they supposedly help launch. Akai, Numark, or INmusic needs to get someone in touch with the mpc legacy to help bring the ren/studio up to par wit the rest of the MPC family. If a very young college student and teach a homeless person to code :WTF: then it shouldn't be hard to get a machine and make it into software!!! i mean look at all the plugins modeled after vintage hardware. When i sold my mpc 5000 for the machine mk1 i was floored by the visual workflow stolen from the mpc but when the Ren/Studio came out (which id rather have) i felt the beat gods have awaken. All in all all i wanted was a visual of the iconic workflow of the legendary MPC So please akai or who ever pleas take a look at all your hardware mpcs and see what they have that the ren dosent and find you a coder to put it in a update. Sorry for venting fellas but i invite u all to do the same cuz i think the ppl screaming for new midi controllers are being heard more cuz we don't get anything we as a group ask for smh… i have more to say so please chime in and if you know or talk to any reps tell them to pay attention to their hardcore fans…



Well said bro I feel the same way .....I'm so disappointed .....I can't even sell this thing on eBay cuz as soon as you do a lil research on the ren it will lead you to mpc tutor ......and Laaaawwwwwd God all you see pretty much is bad reviews on the ren ..... I want fedex my ren to akai headquarters "here you can have this piece of shit back I want my **** money back" ....jack o Donald you r a **** thank you for destroying legacy jack oDonald the only person I hold responsible for destroying the "Akai MPC"
By Mr.ED77 Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:32 pm
mpc60III wrote:
Art James wrote:
mpc60III wrote:+1 Trust me they will learn...

when all the software hackers crack into the software. EVERYBODY will have mpc software...no ren or studio needed..

just an mpd will do.

:WTF:


They need to focus on the ren more and NOT offer the software with these freaking controllers. It makes the ren and studio obsolete


the short version of what i was saying lol




hahahaha ! I got cha'

Making the new mpc's both standalone and software would of stopped this and helped keep its value... BUT maybe thats the direction they are going to go in after the release of all these controllers. I just hope they dont abandon it...but given Akai's history..I see that coming.


Even with the price drop. I dont see many going out buying a ren because the software is the only thing that would make it special and NOW EVERYONE and there grandparents are gonna have access to it. Not a good look.

I could be wrong. But I smell a ripp off report if they dont give ren/studio users at least 5 more updates. Im not speaking negative..im speaking common sense. Why would I got drop $800 bucks on a ren when I could just use the software. Biggest mistake ever putting that software in the bundle with the new controllers. Because what makes the ren/studio so special now ? It turns your "MPC" REN back into a simple controller.. but who cares right? they've got your money.

EVEN if your pleased with the updates yada yada yada .it works for you ect ect...still. you paid how much for you ren ?? Only to have your ren/studio software bundled with some keyboard controllers now.

As a studio owner I wouldnt feel bad at all. because you paid pretty much what an MPD customer would pay and have the official software..hmm maybe I should buy the studio :)

Please common sense responses...no fan boys please.

Art James is right.. WE need to make some noise ! We need some answers..


Let get organized!!!!!! Mpc users unite ;) jokes....I got love for you D. But I'm being very serious lets get organized and do something to send a message as a collectiv!!!maybe dissatisfied ren/studio users should flood YouTube with rants like Just Blaze did for the 5000......and sent a very strong message to numark inmusic akai. All of us have one thing in common who frequent this site we all love mpc lets do something ....t dot out!!!'
By Mr.ED77 Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:15 pm
Hahahaha love it bro ...keep posting bro like what u have to say and oh yeah **** jah!!!! Just like that troll and water the ren is under the bridge
By highcaliba Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:53 am
Having originally coming from a DAW beatmaking work flow.. This definitely makes me wanna sell this mpc studio and just get a full midi controller and just use the essential software in Logic X and call it a day.. That way i'll have the mp work flow and none of the draw backs of these slow progressing updates.
ByMPCHolland053 Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:50 am
Well To Be fair....it is an audio interface with 4 midi outs, 2 midi in, 2 USB (twice midi in & out) that's the possibillity of six external synths...too bad only one!!!?? stereo line in...2 MIC in"s so its actually a very nice interface which has a benefits compared to them midi controller keyboards...ridiculously u can only sample your MIC or guitar or external synth...not actually recording....but fair is fair, the interface itself has lots of unused potential...thinking bout that (hoping they didn't incorporated midi in out etc. Just for looks....) but after a year and a half...its kinda disappointing it isn't implentend and put the hardware to good use....
but thinking bout this, it kinda calms me down, just as mpc essentials is a le version of our software.....put all of the build options of our hardware to good use, one of the reasons I chose the ren over the mpc studio....
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By Rokgod Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:12 pm
He probably followed you bc you said you do coding and said you could code the mpc software easily

In reality, they should be consulting with some of the more hardcore mpc users here instead of just have us beta testing, there are members here dropping innovative ideas every day, every week here, all from veteran mpc users, no excuse to ignore all these people and have the product in the condition its in