Roland teases Aira: "the evolution of the TR-808 rhythm mach

(thanks simon)

SimonInAustralia wrote:TR-8 seems to only have 16 patterns, and it seems to have no chaining of patterns into songs.

And it seems that without having a save option, anything you change in the sequence, or the sound parameters, seems to be automatically saved when you change it.

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apologies if ive messed up the quotes. these are the two things that stood out for me when i was looking through the videos.
. could you chain patterns with the 808 and 909 cos if you could do it with those then surely you can do it with this. i dunno . seems messed up.
for the saving option i wonder if you could work around it with sysex dumps or something. bit of a pain but still . i think you can copy and paste but then you have to paste it somewhere and if theres only 16 spaces then your going to be saving over something. this also seems messed up .
just my tuppence. my brother is seriously considering buying one and i think the way the usb out works if you had that with logic or something it would be pretty powerful but those two things youve mentioned take away from it as you say.

forknspoon wrote:(thanks simon)

Hey Lamp I just checked out the r8 you referred to is it samples of the 808 in Rom?

Samples in rom cards I guess. As a tr808 owner do you get more customized sounds tweaking your drum synths in the 808 compared to working with samples per see. I got tons of samples that I do a bit of touch. But since diving into logic Ultrabeat I wanted a drum synth.

Lampdog wrote:The TR808 is not as nearly as tweakable as my other gear in my sig. I'm better off, sampling 808 into one of those and tweaking it outside the 808. 808 is limited in it's tweaking. Someone asked me to TUNE various stages of 808 kicks and email them the samples. There is a TONE and DECAY, no TUNE knob, lol.

TUNE: Actual note value. (ex. A, C#...)

TONE: How clear the sound of the note is. (ex. on the piano you need to push the key all the way down for a clear tone compared to only slightly hitting the key for a more airy tone)

TONE is exactly how the 808 works. Dude was upset about that and never emailed me again, lol. It sounds almost like a 1/2 pole filter when fully twisted/engaged (not much to rave about) but it keeps the same permanent "tune" whether short DECAY (think short kick) or long DECAY (long drawn out kick that rattles cars and windows, you've heard it before).

That is great stuff to know Lamp! Each one teach one!

One of the best things about the TR808 is when you use the individual outs into your desk so you can eq each sound, insert a compressor on certain sounds, side chain, send groups of sounds into different buses which have different processors on (e.g. for parallel compression), aux send to fx, etc, etc.
Also, the TR808 sound is forever changing, slight nuances which also change depending on what other sounds are playing out of it, how loud each sound is set at, each tuning/tone setting, etc.
The harmonics that come out of it when you, say, overdrive the toms, or eq the hats into just a sizzle, etc... are what make it so good. That's the nature of analogue.
Many factors.
I listen to previous tracks that I've done with my 808 I wonder how the hell I got that sound, lol.
If I try to replicate a particular 808 beat, I can never get it exactly the same. But that's ok because I've found that it's all about moulding the 808 into your tune each time.. it's so organic.
I'm just saying, there's a lot more to a TR808 than just hearing it playing it's sounds straight up.

Now, if only Roland would make a proper analogue TR808-II so people wouldn't have to pay £2000 for one on eBay
Aint gonna happen is it. Maybe Korg will make one then

Blue Haze wrote:

Lampdog wrote:The TR808 is not as nearly as tweakable as my other gear in my sig. I'm better off, sampling 808 into one of those and tweaking it outside the 808. 808 is limited in it's tweaking. Someone asked me to TUNE various stages of 808 kicks and email them the samples. There is a TONE and DECAY, no TUNE knob, lol.

TUNE: Actual note value. (ex. A, C#...)

TONE: How clear the sound of the note is. (ex. on the piano you need to push the key all the way down for a clear tone compared to only slightly hitting the key for a more airy tone)

TONE is exactly how the 808 works. Dude was upset about that and never emailed me again, lol. It sounds almost like a 1/2 pole filter when fully twisted/engaged (not much to rave about) but it keeps the same permanent "tune" whether short DECAY (think short kick) or long DECAY (long drawn out kick that rattles cars and windows, you've heard it before).

That is great stuff to know Lamp! Each one teach one!

Blue Haze beat me to it. i agree. this is good stuff. i never knew that.

The TR-8 is the pick of the bunch for me by far. I'm also more interested in the vocal processor than the other two.