5k to Fantom G6

Sorry if I sound like a newbie...I want to use my samples & drums on my MPC 5000 & sequence into my Roland Fantom G6. Can somebody correct me if this is wrong- MIDI In1-MPC, MIDI OUT-Fantom?

Type: MIDI, 01A,
Sync In1:Slave
Mode: MIDI Clock


Thanks

have you set up your Fantom as well to send out MMC data?

I got it to where the MPC sounds are playing on the fantoms keyboard. But I when I trigger my MPC, the fantom doesn't read it. I want to use my MPC pads not the fantoms keys.

exactly how do you want to control your MPC from your fantom? like what data is supposed to go from the MPC --> Fantom?

I have read your question three times and I don't understand it. I want to help considering that I have a Fantom S and a MPC4000 and I know that it has to be similar, plus I understand midi.

Please tell us the answers to these questions:

1) Which machine will do the sequencing?
2) Which machine do you want to be the Master (Timing master)?
3) Which machine do you want to be the control (MMC) stop play?
4) Which machine/s will be playing the sounds from its output jacks?

Thanks,
Ian

PS You could make life really easy and just put the samples in the Fantom G and do everything from that one keyboard. The sequencer in my Fantom is awesome and easy to use. I know the G has even more polyphony.

Thanks for your reply. Basically I want to use my MPC for drums. And my Fantom for melodies. But I want to sequencing, edit, and recording everything on my Fantom. I like the controls and interface on the Fantom a lot easier. The reason I don't want to use my drums on my Fantom is because I like the feel and pads of the MPC.


So basically all my sounds from my MPC will be played on my MPC and recorded in my Fantom...

Okay let me get this straight because you still have not answered the questions that I listed.

You want to tap in the drum sounds on the MPC 5000. (A recorded drum performance)
Then you want to record a melody on the Fantom, and as you are recording that melody on the Fantom you want to play in time with the pre-recorded MPC 5000 drum track?

Or are you saying you want to record the midi data of your MPC 5000 drum playing in the Fantom sequencer. So that when you start recording the melody you will play in sequence with the MPC drums?

The difference is that in one case you are keeping all of the midi data in the Fantom while the other choice is that the midi data in the MPC is separate and unto itself while the Fantom has the melody midi data unto itself and you are simply having one machine tell the other machine when to play and they both play in time.


Peace
Ian

1) Which machine will do the sequencing?
-Fantom (Press record button on Fantom, sequence playing on Fantom...tap pads on MPC. Hit stop on Fantom. Press play on Fantom....it should play whatever I just did on the MPC)

2) Which machine do you want to be the Master (Timing master)?
-Fantom

3) Which machine do you want to be the control (MMC) stop play?
-Fantom

4) Which machine/s will be playing the sounds from its output jacks?
-MPC (Audio cables are set up correctly because I hear the MPC sounds in the Fantom)

I appreciate your help man. I'm not trying to make this hard I promise lol....I'm just not that wise as far as MIDI

reampcc wrote:1) Which machine will do the sequencing?
-Fantom (Press record button on Fantom, sequence playing on Fantom...tap pads on MPC. Hit stop on Fantom. Press play on Fantom....it should play whatever I just did on the MPC)
Fantom)

2) Which machine do you want to be the Master (Timing master)?
-Fantom

3) Which machine do you want to be the control (MMC) stop play?
-Fantom

4) Which machine/s will be playing the sounds from its output jacks?
-MPC (Audio cables are set up correctly because I hear the MPC sounds in the
I appreciate your help man. I'm not trying to make this hard I promise lol....I'm just not that wise as far as MIDI

So you just want to use the Fantoms sequencer, and use the MPC as a module to output just your drums. I think question 1 is where you are going wrong...
Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think you are going to be able to get full functionality from the MPC (16 level, tune, etc) without using the MPCs sequencer.

I would do every thing the opposite way and use the MPC's sequencer, clock, and MMC.

Sequence the performance in the MPC. Your doing it the hard way! Because the MPC can record and control the MIDI events that you play from the Fantom.

So you just want to use the Fantoms sequencer, and use the MPC as a module to output just your drums.



YES



The reason is I like doing everything in my Fantom (mixing, arranging, etc..) better
except drums. So yes MPC to Fantom.

You are going to need a lot of MIDI cables!

Okay,
I am not sure if this is how it will work because of the different machines we have. Plus I know that the G can record audio in the sequencer as well as midi. Whereas my Fantom S can only record the midi data.

Yes you should be able to control the MPC from the Fantom as long as the PARTS in the MPC are all being controlled by separate MIDI Channels.

Also it sounds like you have the MPC's audio out going into the Fantom G's audio input and you are somehow listening to the audio from the G's headphone or other outputs.

If this is the case, then...

Fantom G midi OUT -> MPC midi IN
Usually channel ten is set for drums
In the Fantom G set Midi channel 10 to OUT (It toggles between INT, EXT, BOTH)
On the MPC make sure your drums are being trigged by MIDI channel 10
Fantom G MMC setting to Master
Fantom G set to MidiClock (Master)

MPC set to MMC Slave (not sure how many MIDI inputs it has but on the 4000 there are two so you have to choose which input is receiving the data)

MPC set to receive MidiClock (Slave) (turn this on, that is what I have to do with the 4000)

Audio cables from MPC to Fantom G input.
Route the Fantom Audio INPUT to the appropriate audio recording track.

Set the tempo on the Fantom G as the MPC will play to that tempo.

Press Play and Record on MPC and it will not start until you press play on the Fantom G.

Peace
Ian
PS If you want to record midi data in the Fantom then you need to have a midi cable going from the MPC to the Fantom to record the MIDI. Remember MIDI is not AUDIO, MIDI is just data. (You may get a midi loop)

PPS Sounds like the problem is that you are not sure about the midi channels. In the 4000 when you are in the Multi screen you see how you can set the Parts to midi channels.

I tried it that way but still no luck. So I'm just gonna import my drums inside the Fantom and have the MPC trigger it via MIDI. (That part I got to work lol)

Thanks everyone for their help!