New Mashine Update Still no 1.7

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Re: New Mashine Update Still no 1.7

By MONSTA_UNO Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:26 pm
TT_Lab wrote:Actually the update came in January, again as we are not in july the 3-6 months window still there.
I don't blame people that are complaining, if my experience with the Ren or any other product would be as bad and frustrating as for some of the guys around here, I would be complaining too.



you sure Version 1.6 wasn't (November 2013) ?
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Re: New Mashine Update Still no 1.7

By LabDog Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:33 pm
Dubmaudioking wrote:This is getting beyond frustrating

Play quantize option, where notes played live on the pads are quantized in real time.
Mix page on Maschine and Maschine MK2 controllers. This page has been expanded and now provides access to group and sound level and pan settings.
Controlling software views from the navigate page on Maschine / MK2 and Maschine Studio controllers.
A batch function to set all sounds in a group to the same MIDI channel and different base keys in order to export a pattern as a MIDI file.
A setting for the metronome to be activated together with recording.
Scenes can be selected / triggered via MIDI input when Maschine is running standalone.
Instantiating the first plug-in on an empty sound updates the name of that sound to the plug-in name.
Undocked NI plug-in windows can be pinned to remain active when not in focus.
Browser performance improvements.
Alt+Drag for copying and pasting of single elements (patterns, scenes, plug-ins) in the Groups / Sounds lists and the plug-in chain.
Sounds accessible on pads on sample recording screen
Numerous bug fixes, as well as performance and stability improvements.


Grass is always greener... till you get to the other side :worthy:
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Re: New Mashine Update Still no 1.7

By SimonInAustralia Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:44 pm
MPCHolland053 wrote:
SimonInAustralia wrote:They have shown us what they are working on for 1.7, they keep saying they are working on it.

You keep saying it is going to be a half arsed 1.6.9.
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show me where I supposedly said that???


exactly...... I never Said that...

:hmmm:
MPCHolland053 wrote:but do u all suppose we won't get a half arsed 1.6.9?? And what makes u think that???
cuz honestly I'm not too sure....kinda terrible track record...

MPCHolland053 wrote:and I asked u what makes u think we will not get a half arsed 1.6.9 weak update??? The absence of an in answer in your reply, says it all...



MPCHolland053 wrote:I do not wish to discuss NI gear on a mpc forum tho' but that's just me

Well maybe don't take part in a thread where the subject and first post is comparing the frequency of Maschine updates to MPC Software updates, and lists the features in the latest Maschine update. :lol:
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Re: New Mashine Update Still no 1.7

By SimonInAustralia Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:52 pm
MONSTA_UNO wrote:yo pete looks like we have some un happy customers :lol: i ant mad you still have 5 days .. you can do it man i believe in ya :P if not pay up .. we have a bet !!!!!!

:lol: A bet that you made up in your own mind, based on the fact you think they have to have an update every 3-6 months, or whatever your designated timeframe for updates is, which isn't even up yet.

MONSTA_UNO wrote:you sure Version 1.6 wasn't (November 2013) ?

Yes, sure, it was January 13th.

It has only been 3 months since the last update.

MONSTA_UNO wrote:and and we had an agreement . which was .. a update every 3-6 moths and that is not complaining when you dont get that .. its called keeping your word .. i understand things happens . so thats why they gave a 3-6 moth window ... but the window is up .. . if you ask me its been up but i forgot the exact day of the last release .so i added 20 more days and that will be up in 5 days . so he/we has every right to make this post .. its been 6 months .. i would see if it has only been 2 or 3 months and people started to complain , but naw 3-6 months was the deal . so keep your word .. if it was me i would . be like look i know it taking longer than expected .. so here is some free vst or sound packs .. thats just me ..

The last update, 1.6, was released on January 13.

A 3-6 month window is not up for another 3 months. :Sigh:

Re: New Mashine Update Still no 1.7

ByMPCHolland053 Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:31 pm
Simon u can talk all u want man... In this topic u just look silly with your remarks, and framing, and bending my words...even though I keep explaining....
i said im not Too Sure, they have a terrible trackrecord...
all after u said yadayada rather then half arsed 1.6.9 but I said that the whole time...im not convinced it will be half arsed I didn't decide it will be...im just not too sure, since previous...... Why am I even trying.....not too sure is nothing more then a shred of doubt...but i will accept your apologies Simon for trolling me here....
1.7 to the rescue!

Re: New Mashine Update Still no 1.7

By audiounity111 Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:37 pm
I'm not sure where this 1.6 was released in January is coming from. 1.6 came out on November 13nth, and coincided with the release of Maschine Studio, which got a lot of us excited that Akai was still in the game for this thing. You can see the date in 1.6 release notes.

The end of January was when Akai was showing 1.7 at NAMM, making some of us think that 1.7 was just around the corner.

I like the REN for what it does but am disappointed at some of it's implementation. I can understand why some people get on Akai's case. It's like a cheating girlfriend, even if she tries to do you right, the second she's gone for a night you expect the worst. Akai had a bad history of unfinished OS's ... the promised MPC5000 OS, etc.. And other things like the vintage mode hardware vs software debacle that have given people a reason to question their reliability on honesty. I see both sides.

So Akai maybe working their butt off on a new update, but their past history will make some skeptical till they release the goods. Others may wonder if their development will mostly go to their new hardware MPC running custom windows software, which is probably easier to program for then Mac and PC operating systems running so many possible configurations of graphic cards, interfaces, software etc.. Their past experience has shown that they can leave a product not completely developed to what was promised (MPC 5000), and they can say they are still working on it while releasing a new toy that they say will be the one that they finally make good on.

I hope that they haven't switched all their resources to a new revenue stream and are slowly leaving the REN behind. I am still hopeful, and I do like the REN. I also think sometimes people attack AKAI for stupid **** that is undeserved..

I'm not here to really judge other people's opinions either way. I hope AKAI make good. But they have given people a reason to be skeptical through the last many years.
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Re: New Mashine Update Still no 1.7

By MONSTA_UNO Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:40 pm
i had to edit this hahaha . thx ^^^^^^^^^^^^ audiounity111 lmao just go on the akai website and see for ya self lmao

http://6be54c364949b623a3c0-4409a68c214 ... eNotes.pdf


!About
Akai Professional is continually updating and enhancing the MPC experience.
This document lists the new features, fixes and improvements made to your MPC software.
Version 1.6 (November 2013) New features
◾ List Editor: Provides a GUI and LCD-based event editing interface for fine-tuning event lists. Click the GUI list toolbar icon to switch between grid or list view. SHIFT- press STEP SEQ to enter the LCD list editor.
◾ Note length quantize: adjusts the position of the note ends, or make notes play legato.
◾ New editor scrolling behaviour: toolbar buttons toggles between scroll modes: Off, Page, Scroll.
◾ Added MIDI control mode layouts for pad chromatic scale layout/ !


I DIDNT WANT TO SAY THIS BUT . 1.6 WAS NOT EVEN A REAL UPDATE MAN LMAO .. THE ONLY REAL UPDATE WAS Version 1.5 (September 2013)


SMDH yo SimonInAustralia you allmost had me :)

WAIT do you even own a ren ? ether you own a ren or have never turned it on .. for the fact that it tells you when it new update is ready .. so if you have one you would have known the last update was on nov :) and why was i confused ((( i didnt want to say this ether )))) but i have not turned my ren on in 3-4 months .. i been using my ASR 10 .. and been taking a break from music .. and i came back . with hopes of a lil inspiration . cuzz i thought the 1.7 would be done by now ... as amatter of fact i been gone for more than a year :)
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Re: New Mashine Update Still no 1.7

By 83dude Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:59 pm
MPCHolland053 wrote:
83dude wrote:Indeed. I'd rather have a good and (mostly) bug-free 1.7 than a half-arsed 1.6.9 version.


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100% on 1 thing, in stead of 1% effort on 100 things...


Fun thing: You repeat what I said, but yet you try to contradict me. I just said the **** same thing, and that's it. But thanks for complaining anyways, anyways. :Sigh:

EDIT: Oh and... I'd STILL rather have 1.6.9 than 1.6 - no arguing about that! But PLEASE get serious: If you don't like it, don't use it! It doesn't get any simpler, trust me!
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Re: New Mashine Update Still no 1.7

By kb420ps Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:02 pm
SimonInAustralia wrote:Yes, sure, it was January 13th.

It has only been 3 months since the last update.

MONSTA_UNO wrote:i had to edit this hahaha . thx ^^^^^^^^^^^^ audiounity111 lmao just go on the akai website and see for ya self lmao

http://6be54c364949b623a3c0-4409a68c214 ... eNotes.pdf


!About
Akai Professional is continually updating and enhancing the MPC experience.
This document lists the new features, fixes and improvements made to your MPC software.
Version 1.6 (November 2013) New features



OWNED!!!!!

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Re: New Mashine Update Still no 1.7

ByMPCHolland053 Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:24 pm
83dude wrote:
MPCHolland053 wrote:
83dude wrote:Indeed. I'd rather have a good and (mostly) bug-free 1.7 than a half-arsed 1.6.9 version.


(...)
100% on 1 thing, in stead of 1% effort on 100 things...


Fun thing: You repeat what I said, but yet you try to contradict me. I just said the **** same thing, and that's it. But thanks for complaining anyways, anyways. :Sigh:

EDIT: Oh and... I'd STILL rather have 1.6.9 than 1.6 - no arguing about that! But PLEASE get serious: If you don't like it, don't use it! It doesn't get any simpler, trust me!


absolutely not.... By the way 1.6 itself was a 1.5.9...and I did not contradict u in any way, cuz u seem to forget the element, the new mpcprototype the mpk the rhythm wolf,and previous updates, delayed releases...thats why I said 100% on 1 thing...but okay...

again I never said I didn't like it...i even,said several,times I love the damn thang...what does that have to do with my initial question, do u have faith 1.7 will be solid? I AM NOT "TOO SURE"

if am purposely misinterpreted one more time, I'm off this forum...
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Re: New Mashine Update Still no 1.7

By 83dude Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:46 pm
MPCHolland053 wrote:absolutely not.... By the way 1.6 itself was a 1.5.9...and I did not contradict u in any way, cuz u seem to forget the element, the new mpcprototype the mpk the rhythm wolf,and previous updates, delayed releases...thats why I said 100% on 1 thing...but okay...

again I never said I didn't like it...i even,said several,times I love the damn thang...what does that have to do with my initial question, do u have faith 1.7 will be solid? I AM NOT "TOO SURE"

if am purposely misinterpreted one more time, I'm off this forum...


Sorry mate, I feel you. There's a bunch of releases from Akai Pro at the moment, but they're fighting for survival just like everyone else does. And why not taking 20 shots in the dark just to kill the one contestant if necessary? It may not be efficient, but it'll work one way or another. And (sorry) if you don't make up your mind OR if you don't speak precicely, don't complain about misunderstanding...

I'd just rather have them to have coders constantly working (and they do) than doing nothing; there've been some major updates so far and none of them really were a giant leap or something, but sometimtes it's better to take small steps in the swamps than to jump and drown. But we all want the **** to get better, and criticism withough appreciation ist nothing more than denunciation.

Complaining alone won't change a thing if not presented construcively, that's all I ask for. Period.

Re: New Mashine Update Still no 1.7

By kb420ps Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:58 pm
If anyone is really wondering what's taking Akai so long to release a 1.7 update for the Ren, all you have to do is look at the money. Follow the money trail. It's just that simple. While users have been waiting for 1.7, this is what AkaiPro has been REALLY working on. This is their focus right now:


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Just take an honest look at what they've been working on, and consider the fact that those products, once they're released, won't really require any type of future software updates. They're going to continue to promote those products, sell them, and run with the money. They won't have to continually pay anyone to fix any software with those items. We live in a corporate world, and that's the way the Akai corporate mindset works. If you are a Ren user, you're old news in the corporate mindset. They already have your money, and they're already on to the next thing:

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Once they're on to the next thing, it's game over. Just ask any MPC 5000 user. Just think about it. All of those products have been announced since 1.6 was released.......

Re: New Mashine Update Still no 1

By TT_Lab Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:26 am
Yes Mosta_uno eventhough they probably had it internaly in november they didn't release it til january.

Re: New Mashine Update Still no 1.7

By BuleriaChk Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:44 am
FWIW, I paid $845 for my Maschine Studio last December, and it is truly extraordinary, especially with the new update - and the template for Live is great as well - and it really plays well with my Push.

That said, I want the APC Mini like.... yesterday.... :)
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