Parallel compression phasing

So.... last night I had a drum loop going & it sounded a little weak so I tried layering it with the same loop, adding a compressor on one of the tracks.
I think this is called parallel compression? Correct me if Im wrong.
I panned one left, one right & filtered them both a little to taste.
Although it sounded phat now after about 2 or so bars it started phasing. It was intermittent but annoying.

What was I doing wrong?
How do you avoid that phasing sound?

when doing parallel compression you don´t pan the sources hard left/right.

phasing occurs if your host doesn´t (correctly) compensate the delay that´s occuring.

a lot of software compressors feature a dedicated mix knob (wet/dry balance). this makes it easy to do parallel compression.

Working inside the box and not within a DAW, it's often hard to correct phasing issues. Take out the panning as said before and shouldn't this fix all of your issues you can either apply a little treatment to one of the copies of your loop (resample bitgrunged or bitreduced, you may find that it beefs even more your beat) or just pitch-shift it by 0,01%. This would slightly modify the sample so that it won't be phasing any longer when layered.

PEACE

Thanks for the speedy reply's guys. They both make a lot of sense.
So I don't wanna be panning. I was thinking that it would increase my stereo width & make my drums mo' phat.
I am mixing in the box this time (2500: JJOS free version)
I'll try the bitgrunge & pitch technique tonight.

to me "in the box" (or ITB) mixing usually mean mixing in a DAW. Maybe I'm wrong but I never heard it used in the way as in this thread before.

to layer the same sample on top of itself it has to be "sampleaccurate" in most cases to not get that phasing. If there is a compressor working on one of the tracks this track will get delayed for a few samples so its not sampleaccurate anymore. you can try the following:
1. copy the sample you wanna layer (instead of using one sample on two pads)
2. set a new samplestart for the copy. Start with low values 2 or 5 and if it doesn't work increase.

If this still don't work I recommend to do the parallel compression in a DAW wich is easier to handle IMO

peace

peterpiper wrote::hmmm:
to me "in the box" (or ITB) mixing usually mean mixing in a DAW. Maybe I'm wrong but I never heard it used in the way as in this thread before.......

2. set a new samplestart for the copy. Start with low values 2 or 5 and if it doesn't work increase.

In the box. I.e inside the MPC. Iv read that phrase loads on this forum.

What do you mean by low values? Values of what?
Forgive my ignorance.

Phonetic wrote:

peterpiper wrote::hmmm:
to me "in the box" (or ITB) mixing usually mean mixing in a DAW. Maybe I'm wrong but I never heard it used in the way as in this thread before.......

2. set a new samplestart for the copy. Start with low values 2 or 5 and if it doesn't work increase.

In the box. I.e inside the MPC. Iv read that phrase loads on this forum.

What do you mean by low values? Values of what?
Forgive my ignorance.

2 or 5 ticks further into the sample. i.e. the Sample Start field has a number representing the start time, add 2-5 to that, to make it start the tiniest bit later in the sample.

Aahhhh right. Thanks.

Phonetic wrote:In the box. I.e inside the MPC. Iv read that phrase loads on this forum.

In The Box or ITB usually means 'done in the computer'.

Alrighty then. I just thought with the MPC being a box shape kinda.....
I guess Iv learnt 2 lessons with this thread.

Also Iv got my phasing issue sorted. Drums be sounding nice now thanks.
So thanks everybody