Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
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By hok-2 Mon May 05, 2014 11:47 pm
Is it possible to record changes in frequency in real time on the Mpc2ooo?
I think I read something about the variation slider maybe being able to do it, but I suspect I'm wrong.
I'm just trying to do that ascending filter sweep type build up effect, popular in house music etc.

I could just record myself twiddling with the frequency then re-sample that, but it would be pretty cool if it can actually just be done in the Mpc on it's own.

Any advise on this would be much appreciated.
Cheers :hmmm:
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By mr_debauch Tue May 06, 2014 1:00 am
the difference in the filter frequency happens only at the time the sample is triggered so I don't think it will do that.
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By hok-2 Tue May 06, 2014 1:31 am
Wow man
I've just worked out it is possible, although it doesn't seem to alter a pattern that's already been recorded.
Is that not possible?
I really didn't think it could do that.
Cool!

If anyone else didn't know:
Hold down shift & press note variation, then change the parameter to filter.

I'm sure all you seasoned Mpc heads already knew this, but I hadn't worked out how to make the note variation slider do anything :WTF:
It's pretty useful and I'm going to be fiddling away with it for ever now :smoker:
Haha dope.

mr_debauch wrote:the difference in the filter frequency happens only at the time the sample is triggered so I don't think it will do that.


Yeah I noticed that, it's a shame ,because otherwise it could be used like a modulation wheel on basslines which would be great, but on successive snares it works pretty well for that filter type effect.
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By hok-2 Tue May 06, 2014 2:15 am
I've got S3000i but the backlight has gone
when I replace the foil I'll use that as well, I hook it up sometimes but it's such a hassle trying to see the screen without the backlight.
The S3000 has built in effects too.
Yeah the filtering effect on the 2000 is a bit limited but I think it will be useful.

To be honest I'm just in the first stages of working out how to do most stuff on the 2000, so these little things are minor breakthroughs for me.

Outboard filter would be nice, but then I'd probably need a mixing desk, in fact there's a whole load of shiznit that I need.
But at the moment I'm happy just doing it all on my 2000 :-D
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By distortedtekno Tue May 06, 2014 2:52 am
The s3000 is a nice sampler. It's easy to replace the EL Foil for the backlight. I've done it with an s2800 and an s950. The s2800 is very similar to the s3000. They have the same AD/DA converters as the MPC3000. So it's worth replacing the El Foil. I wish I still had my s2800 and s950. But I sold them a long time ago. Between the s3000 and the MPC2000, you got a powerful combo. Glad to see you're having fun learning the MPC2000. I really enjoyed learning it again as well. Even though it's limited compared to the newer models, it's got a good set of features, and the OS is very reliable.
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By mr_debauch Tue May 06, 2014 3:17 am
yeah I think once you record it that is it.. maybe you can actually record it on it's own track and mute it? I don't know really because I don't use it. But I believe you must push the after button to turn it on or off for a sequence's playback. I think you are better off using something like a korg kp2, or kp3 with the midi ins and outs on it so you can make a track in the sequence dedicated to a filter sweep by recording the automation via midi... and of course if you have the 8 output board you can run a pair of outs from that and only have the desired sound going through the filter.
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By Wal Martian Fri May 09, 2014 4:28 pm
mr_debauch wrote:the difference in the filter frequency happens only at the time the sample is triggered so I don't think it will do that.

debauch is right, there is no real time filtering on the 2K only when a sound is retriggered. The work around is a standalone filter like the MFC42 or chopping the sound bit by bit and changing the filter for each chop.
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By hok-2 Sun May 11, 2014 2:11 pm
Ahh, I hadnt thought of that: [/quote] Wal Martian
"chopping the sound bit by bit and changing the filter for each chop"
Nice one.
Yeah my S3000 sampler can do real time sweeps, but like you say not mpc2000's.

I've found that you can however assign the note variation slider to the filter option, then record the filtering of a individual drum/sound in real time, as apposed to say step edit , and changing the filter value on each note manually, if you get my meaning?
But it's just a value for each time you trigger it, word.

More reasons to fix the display screen and floppy drive on my S3000
The filters are nice on that, especially when applied to Sign Wave or the Saw
♫ Warrrk Wawrr Waaah Whub Whub ♫ :lol:

I appreciate the help people.
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By distortedtekno Sun May 11, 2014 4:53 pm
You'll be glad when you invest the small amount of time and money needed for the s3000. It'll serve you tenfold in years to come. :nod:
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By hok-2 Tue May 13, 2014 2:26 pm
Yeah, I've owned it for about 10-11 years but not used it much in the last 5 years or so.
But just the fact it still works around 15 years after it was made is pretty impressive.
Apart from the backlight and the floppy drive, which I can replace for around £40 I would imagine.

S3000's are good machines in my book, hope my mpc 2000 stands the test of time as well as that has.
wordy word :mrgreen:
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By Wal Martian Tue May 13, 2014 3:46 pm
hok-2 wrote:it doesn't seem to alter a pattern that's already been recorded.
Is that not possible?

Yes it is possible. Press the 'After' button right by the slider then use Overdub and move it while the sequence records. Try it with your hi hats and set it to decay, makes it sound way more natural.
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By hok-2 Tue May 13, 2014 7:51 pm
Wal Martian wrote: Try it with your hi hats and set it to decay, makes it sound way more natural.[/color]


Thanks man, I'll try that out, I've been looking for a way to add a bit more variation and realism to my hi-hats.
I have started recording them without Full Level on, to get velocity variations, so I'll try that too.
I appreciate the advice.

That 'Finger Drumming' kit with velocity sensitive timbres looks pretty cool, although it's tittle is just perverse :lol:
Or maybe that's my mind :!:

This is a bit off topic, but would I be correct in assuming that, say I bought the 'finger Drumming" kit & downloaded it, would a usb floppy drive be capable of copying all the sounds and program information to a floppy, which I could then put in my mpc 2000?
I have the 'Mpc Editor' program, so theoretically, I should be fine right?
I don't want to buy a usb floppy drive and it be useless is all.

PEACE.