Bug reports & end-user support for Akai's MPC Software 'controllers' including the new MPC Studio 2, the MPC Touch, MPC Renaissance & original MPC Studio and MPC StudioB lack.
By pituchez Sun Aug 03, 2014 5:58 pm
i installed both 64/32 bit version of it and scanned it on mpc. still not coming out. maybe its just not ment to be?
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By fdodds Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:17 am
you don't 'scan' anything in the mpc software to setup rearoute, but you keep mentioning scan? are you trying to use vsts or something? ReaRoute should just be installed to your computer as an audio driver and then it should show up as an option in your mpc software's audio devices (when reaper has been opened first and left open while the mpc software is running). i know i've said all this already lol, sorry mate if none of this is working i'm not sure i can help you out, unless you live in sydney. maybe people on the reaper forums can figure out what's going on.
By dazastah Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:38 pm
So this one goes out to nubian, as earlier in the post was a question to sync reaper with the mpc...

i found a way with another little software, of course free, called loopbe1.. It's a virtual midi cable and works much like the iac driver in osx... It enables midi to transfer between applications...

So when i push play start on mpc, it plays the mpc software and reaper at the same time...(via mmc) You can also sync using mtc..(reaper slaves to mpc software)

IT's late and i'm typing in bed, but i;ll update the post 2moro night.. (i'm working 2moro!!!)

here's the link if you care to try it out...
http://www.nerds.de/en/loopbe1.html
By pituchez Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:30 pm
fdodds wrote:you don't 'scan' anything in the mpc software to setup rearoute, but you keep mentioning scan? are you trying to use vsts or something? ReaRoute should just be installed to your computer as an audio driver and then it should show up as an option in your mpc software's audio devices (when reaper has been opened first and left open while the mpc software is running). i know i've said all this already lol, sorry mate if none of this is working i'm not sure i can help you out, unless you live in sydney. maybe people on the reaper forums can figure out what's going on.



yeh i know m8.
but ive tried with reaper opened first then scaning on mpc to see if that would work. but nothing. who knows why it wont work on my shit. need to find a way to record some vocals ;)
By dazastah Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:43 pm
pituchez wrote:but ive tried with reaper opened first then scaning on mpc to see if that would work


You cant scan for rearoute... Its not a vst plug in... So it wont show up.
Have you still not just recorded vocals in reaper.. Without the mpc software.. So you know how to do it? Start simple first.. Record vocals without any beat.. Just to see if you can do that.
If you can do that.. then export a audio mixdown from mpc software. Then import that file into reaper(you can drag and drop it from a explorer window) .. then try and record your vocals on a new track underneath it...
By pituchez Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:59 pm
no i havent tried. seeing as the microphone is connected to mpc ren and i cant get them to work togethere. but ill try and see what happens. ill let you know ;)
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By fdodds Fri Aug 08, 2014 12:30 am
mate you need to scratch up on some basics of how this stuff works. an audio device (which the back of the Ren is) can work with any music software, whatever plugs into an audio device can be recorded into whatever program that is configured to use it.

so you can open up reaper without touching rearoute or the mpc software, and still use the mpc ren to record into reaper using a microphone, as long as reaper is set up to use the Ren Hardware as an audio device.
By pituchez Fri Aug 08, 2014 2:48 am
ahhh..ill try that then ;)

this is my first mpc and first time using any of this programs or doing anything with music for that matter
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By fdodds Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:05 am
Not at all trying to discourage you, but a lot of the early days of music production is just slowly learning. a program like Reaper which is a full DAW (digital audio workstation) is as complex as photoshop, or video editing software... there are simply so many different features and stages to audio production that it takes a long time to get your head around the basics of it.

i'll try to give you a quick basic run down of some of the technology, maybe if there are any parts you need further help with you can DM me or something?

first of all what i meant by "audio interface", is a device that handles the audio separate to your computer, that lets you plug things into it (like a microphone) to record them and also you can plug in speakers, headphones.

the reason we use audio interfaces is because they are separate to your computer you get far less lag in the audio when recording if you use an interface, the inputs are also invaluable obviously.

so the mpc Ren is different to most audio interfaces, because it's also a midi controller. a midi controller means a device that sends note values to a computer or synthesizer (midi devices don't make sound on their own). to complicate things further, it's not just a hybrid midi/audio device, it also works with it's own software in a unique way for it's beat making/chopping/sequencing capabilities.

when you're just recording vocals in reaper, you don't need any of that beat making stuff, you just want to use the mpc ren as an audio device working directly with Reaper. this means that the pads, all the controls, the screen on the ren are effectively NOT working with Reaper (those controls are meant for mpc software control, not to do with the audio interface) you're only using the Ren as an Audio Interface - basically all the ports in the back of the ren for microphones or other input cables get sent directly to Reaper for you to record through one of them.

you can follow a guide here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtTshPV4bpk for basic recording in reaper. where he is setting up the audio device, you should select ASIO as the device type and Ren as the driver. make sure the input for the track you are recording onto is set to the same as the one your microphone is plugged into, you will know it is correct if you see the levels bouncing up as you test the microphone by speaking into it or tapping it.

if you're just recording the vocals in Reaper, you would want to get your beat out of the mpc software as an audio mixdown. follow the instructions in the manual first to lay out the order of your sequences using Song Mode within the MPC Software, then go File > Export > Audio Mixdown or just press Ctrl + Shift + E. This will give you one .wav file that you can drag and drop into reaper for the beat underneath your vocals, or if you choose separate outputs you will get one file for every track in your beat, so you can adjust the levels later (unlike the single .wav which you cannot edit the volume of, eg. if the drums are too quiet after you add vocals you can't make the drums louder without making everything else louder too)