Exchange tips and tricks for the Akai MPC4000
By Sonoran Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:54 am
Trying hard not to break something. Yesterday the hardrive of my newly aquired second hand 4K sputtered out. All of a sudden while deleting some files from the save screen it started clicking and whirring painfully. Froze a little- then it said "no disk". Everything I've done so far on the 4000 is gone. But I gotta move on. So I bought a new hard drive open up 4000 and I see a tiny little hole in the flat hard drive cable. One of those wires just had a pinhole size missing section out of it. How could that happen? No idea. Is that the cause of everything thats wrong? Well it can't be a good thing. So I want to relpace the cable but the one that came with my new hardrive is really long and dissproportionate to the inside of the MPC. The slave and master connections are way too close together. Where can I find one that will fit? The guy I bought it from swears the other cable and hard drive weren't that old.

Searching through these forums has been helpful but it seems these things happen a lot. Everyone talking about bugs and how you gotta walk on eggshells. I feel dumb I hadn't backed everything up but come on now- I want to be able to trust this thing, rely on it to come through. How am I supposed let it flow otherwise? I have been making music on my grandpa's MPC 60 for many many years now (hate to give up that flavor). Banged out in some pretty ghetto studios that were not at all smoke free. Hauled it out for many live shows. Had it installed for a while in the dash board of my low-low. The play start button is loose and sticks, the volume knob is jacked, and I can barely see the screen but I swear, it works perfectly to this day. It has never froze and the only thing it has ever done to frustrate me is tell me some sample disks were corrupted. Now what? Am I gonna always be freaked out, as if I might lose everything at anytime. Is that what I have been looking forward to? I was expecting to be riding on a cloud with this 4000. Are there really that many problems or is that just the nature of a place like this, a place for people to get support?
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By Blue Haze Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:05 pm
Sonoran wrote:Trying hard not to break something. Yesterday the hardrive of my newly aquired second hand 4K sputtered out. All of a sudden while deleting some files from the save screen it started clicking and whirring painfully. Froze a little- then it said "no disk". Everything I've done so far on the 4000 is gone. But I gotta move on. So I bought a new hard drive open up 4000 and I see a tiny little hole in the flat hard drive cable. One of those wires just had a pinhole size missing section out of it. How could that happen? No idea. Is that the cause of everything thats wrong? Well it can't be a good thing. So I want to relpace the cable but the one that came with my new hardrive is really long and dissproportionate to the inside of the MPC. The slave and master connections are way too close together. Where can I find one that will fit? The guy I bought it from swears the other cable and hard drive weren't that old.

Searching through these forums has been helpful but it seems these things happen a lot. Everyone talking about bugs and how you gotta walk on eggshells. I feel dumb I hadn't backed everything up but come on now- I want to be able to trust this thing, rely on it to come through. How am I supposed let it flow otherwise? I have been making music on my grandpa's MPC 60 for many many years now (hate to give up that flavor). Banged out in some pretty ghetto studios that were not at all smoke free. Hauled it out for many live shows. Had it installed for a while in the dash board of my low-low. The play start button is loose and sticks, the volume knob is jacked, and I can barely see the screen but I swear, it works perfectly to this day. It has never froze and the only thing it has ever done to frustrate me is tell me some sample disks were corrupted. Now what? Am I gonna always be freaked out, as if I might lose everything at anytime. Is that what I have been looking forward to? I was expecting to be riding on a cloud with this 4000. Are there really that many problems or is that just the nature of a place like this, a place for people to get support?



To tell the truth each 4k is individual like each of us. I had my 4k over 2 yrs now with very few problems. However I bought is new. This site is for tips and techniques if I were you I would call Akai direct of course you are without a warranty but it is used and problems happen with used equipment. I usually buy used gear from a store that way I can trade if I have too.

Call your local Akai representative or take it to a music store and get it fixed. I don`t think you are any technician so don`t play yourself.


Forget about what others complains handle your business and get you right. Peace. :idea:

By adrian Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:12 pm
The small hole in the IDE cable is normal. That IDE cable is an original cable from AKAI, and is not the reason why the HDD is screwed up.

Adrian
FWTX

By aprim Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:15 pm
Put the HD in a pc see it you can see the samples. Its a fat 32 format so the pc can see it no problem. A hole is normal so it may not be dead.
By DArmy2020 Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:42 pm
So, does anyone know, if you replace the IDE cable for a new one, whether there will be any problems, given that there is no hole. To the point, does anyone know why the whole is there?
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By tsutek Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:00 am
Just sayin, I've never used the HDD on my 4k, always using USB sticks (even 128GB sticks are quite cheap nowadays). No probs so far. If you're not feeling secure with your HDD, i suggest getting a good brand USB stick, like kingston or something. With an USB hub, you can even have several USB sticks connected to the 4k simultaneously!

ATM using 32GB sticks, dunno if 128GB sticks are 100% compatible since IIRC the MPC OS only supports up to 120GB (?)
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By SimonInAustralia Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:25 am
DArmy2020 wrote:So, does anyone know, if you replace the IDE cable for a new one, whether there will be any problems, given that there is no hole. To the point, does anyone know why the whole is there?

The hole is there for Cable Select.

Without Cable Select, a single drive on the cable is set to Master, and if there are two drives on the cable, then you set one drive as Master and the other drive as Slave.

With Cable Select, you set the drives to operate as Cable Select, and the hole end of the cable is used to determine which drive is the Slave.


Without the Cable Select hole in the cable, you can just set the jumper on one drive to be Master, and the jumper on a second drive to be slave.
By manji Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:31 am
Backing up your 4k is double easy - there's 2 IDE cables.


If you don't use the CDr, and honestly, who does these days, take it out, put in a 2nd hdd and have one be your back up, one not be your backup.



I have owned numerous mpcs through out the years, and I'm on my 4th 4k and I've had this one 4 years and never had a problem with it. I'd say reliability is probably the number one reason all of us are still using hardware.
By Clint Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:40 am
manji wrote:

If you don't use the CDr, and honestly, who does these days


Me.

For loading stuff from...CD's and Akai CD-Roms.
By rogue scrunt Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:11 pm
Clint wrote:
manji wrote:

If you don't use the CDr, and honestly, who does these days


Me.

For loading stuff from...CD's and Akai CD-Roms.



i save every beat to inter HD, burn a cd, and drag to desktop via ak.sys
all my sounds are backed up to an offsite location too
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By SimonInAustralia Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:54 pm
rogue scrunt wrote:i save every beat to inter HD, burn a cd, and drag to desktop via ak.sys
all my sounds are backed up to an offsite location too

Nice, doubt many take backups as seriously as they should. :nod:
By dryad-66 Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:56 am
rogue scrunt wrote:
Clint wrote:
manji wrote:

If you don't use the CDr, and honestly, who does these days


Me.

For loading stuff from...CD's and Akai CD-Roms.



i save every beat to inter HD, burn a cd, and drag to desktop via ak.sys
all my sounds are backed up to an offsite location too


My sounds are backed up once to the old infirm but kinda stable origina internal hd!!!! and thats all : |
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By SimonInAustralia Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:58 am
dryad-66 wrote:My sounds are backed up once to the old infirm but kinda stable origina internal hd!!!! and thats all : |

Are they 'backed up', or is that the only saved version on the internal HD?

If that is the only saved version of your data, are you OK with losing it when the HD fails, or when the MPC is stolen, or when you house burns down, etc.?
By dryad-66 Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:36 am
No just saved.Not even backed up.Im a bit of a nutter when it comes to working.After or during a session i usually re cord some mixes of what ive been working on live and often save the samples sequence to whatever media at hand.If i lose some work i have a little cry....and then make some more fire and move on.Keeps things fresh.Kinda random i know.I also dont have any house insurance :smoker: :smoker: