Bug reports & end-user support for Akai's MPC Software 'controllers' including the new MPC Studio 2, the MPC Touch, MPC Renaissance & original MPC Studio and MPC StudioB lack.
By Nubian Mindz Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:03 am
dazastah wrote:So this one goes out to nubian, as earlier in the post was a question to sync reaper with the mpc...

i found a way with another little software, of course free, called loopbe1.. It's a virtual midi cable and works much like the iac driver in osx... It enables midi to transfer between applications...

So when i push play start on mpc, it plays the mpc software and reaper at the same time...(via mmc) You can also sync using mtc..(reaper slaves to mpc software)

IT's late and i'm typing in bed, but i;ll update the post 2moro night.. (i'm working 2moro!!!)

here's the link if you care to try it out...
http://www.nerds.de/en/loopbe1.html


Nice one. Downloaded this morning and have it installed. Now trying to set it all up so that the Ren controls the start of Reaper.

Any tips?
By Nubian Mindz Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:07 am
Oh...that was simple. Have it sorted. Thanks again.

This makes things very interesting once again....huge 'realtime' automation possibilities opening up now.

Once 1.7 is here with the increased virtual outputs then all of my 2014 MPC Ren dreams have come true!!!

Dazastah, thanks again for the hook up and tips,much appreciated.

:worthy:
User avatar
By fdodds Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:04 am
I'm setting up my ren to work better with reaper on my new computer daily. first time i've had a desktop computer in years so it feels crazy having my ren and music gear permanently set up.

heres a cool tip for reaper users: OSC is supported in reaper from a few versions ago, you can very easily integrate TouchOSC (app, like $6.50?) on an ipad/iphone/android device with reaper as a remote control for the mixer desk in reaper. Reaper actually comes bundled with an osc template based on two of TouchOSCs default pages for logic, and these work fairly well with reaper out of the box.

you can also create your own interfaces on touchosc but i havent yet had a look at that. i want to tweak the logicpad settings, thats for sure... the logicpad touch osc gives a dedicated panel for eq control which works with ReaEQ great, you can control reaper fx through the channel strip view.
User avatar
By comtox Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:07 pm
I just discovered this post.. lol ...

:worthy: Thank you so much Dazastah, Fdodds and Nubian Mind for leading us on this way ! Sounds so great to use :worthy:

I'll test the standalone / Rearoute / Reaper + loopbe right now :)

To come : More virtual outputs in Mpc 1.7, then evenmore messing with reaper :) :smoker:

I'll post news. BRB BRGDS Fam'

Edit : It works like a charm, I did it with the plugin and Cubase, but that's the same *10E100 ! Now I need to learn every Reaper subtilities :) Ty Again
User avatar
By comtox Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:42 pm
Any tips to link the transport of the Ren with the Reaper transport ?

Nubian Mindz , you got it synced now ?
By Nubian Mindz Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:45 pm
comtox wrote:Any tips to link the transport of the Ren with the Reaper transport ?

Nubian Mindz , you got it synced now ?


Look up a few posts above and get hold of the loopbe1 software Dazastah recommends.

Install.

Then on the Ren go to sync option and in the 'To' box select LoopBe and tick the 'send' option under MMC

Then, in Reaper, go to preferences and select 'midi devices' you should see the LoopBe option, which will be disabled by default. Double click this and in the box that pops up tick both 'Enable Input Control' options.

This tells Reaper that LoopBe can send MMC/Control instructions and that Reaper will obey them.

Now the transport on the Ren should control Reaper's controls.

It's genuinely a marriage made in heaven!
User avatar
By comtox Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:04 am
Man... thanks again ! That will completly change the game :-) word !

You are magic guys, cya
By dazastah Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:26 am
Great to see peoples taking on reaper with mpc software. They do work really well together.. the best thing about it, is that any hardware mpc can slide straight into this setup aswell... (you just change the inputs for each track to the physical ones) and the same goes for the midi control....

I'm also using rtpmidi and loop midi by this guy http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software.htmlas well.. Which can have more than one virtual midi port at a time compared to loopbe1 single channel. why would you want to do this? well you mite use something like kontakt(vsti) in it's true multi timbral form(in reaper) And use the mpc software midi out ports to control it with virtual cables... As we all know that using it inside the mpc software limits the plugin to a submix.... Because kontakt is in reaper, your not using your mpc virtual outs, leaving kontakt to be used to it's full potential with it's own virtual outs into reaper..
By dazastah Fri Aug 29, 2014 4:30 am
haha! So Akai actually have their own "loopbe1" driver too.. To install it, you must load the mpc software as a plug in. then go into the mpc soft preferences and change the transport control mode to daw. It should then ask if you want to install the midi driver.. This driver is the internal midi cable that works much like loopbe1 software. (actally looks rebranded ... and akai just bought a company license from him...)

Because i dont use the plug in i missed it.. Anyone else have this driver loaded.. ?
User avatar
By fdodds Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:19 am
Yeah dazastah on the laptop i was using up until 2 weeks ago i had that driver installed, but i found it was pretty inaccurate at sending sync to reaper, but it may just be that i had it configured wrong, that's probably the case if you're right that they've used loopbe1 (which i've used a lot on different computers with no problems)

It's really weird how they hid that utility away. I'll have to load up plugin mode and install it on this computer too to try it out again. i remember you could disable it quickly by right clicking the icon in the windows notification area in the bottom right, which was useful for when you don't want to roll the reaper transport
By dazastah Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:08 am
Yeah... Looking at the windows... It's suspiciously identical... Loopbe1 has mute... Akai's version is disable.. The windows are both the same size window too... I was actually trying this out because a user on the akai community boards suggested a way to get the asio driver to work properly, regardless of the usb2 or usb3 port.. I didn't get in a full test though because i had to go out...
By pituchez Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:38 pm
sup noobs. long time no see.

anyways.

did you guys or "we" guys get that audio track that we needed to record vocals on mpc?

also quick question while im here..
im trying to record some vocals on mpc and only hear it on one side. both left and right are selected in the mpc ;(

there any other way to do it?
User avatar
By fdodds Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:28 am
You could use direct record but it's still not the best method, I'd still recommend you to just export your track and rap over the top of it in a different DAW - I'll still explain the steps with 1.7, but as you'll see it's needlessly complicated for your purpose.. the mpc excells at making beats, but tracking vocals/rap over the top is always going to be easier and better in a full fledged DAW

Direct record lets you record into a single sequence on mpc software. For rapping across a whole beat thats gonna be awkward - for a start you would probably have to convert your beat from individual sequences to a single sequence using song mode.

For the actual rapping recording hit Sample Rec and before you start recording set the input up correctly (you've got yours set to R and L even though you're only running through one line, highlight that field on the lcd and increment it with the jog wheel/plus/minus buttons or change it with your mouse in the software to make it set either to only R or only L depending on which input you're using)

Make sure your beat (all in one sequence) is playing before you hit Sample Rec for direct record to be in effect, when you're ready to come in with vocals on the beat hit record and go for it.. Now where you're going to run into problems is if you make a mistake and need to redo just one line, or one word, that's going to be extremely tricky to do using mpc programs and events.. you would have to completely re-do stuff, whereas in a DAW it's easy to delete an isolated portion of what you've recorded and overdub the correction quickly... you're also going to have trouble navigating through the sequence, essentially relying on numbers with no indication of the waveform you've recorded.. in a DAW you can see the waveform of your recording, so you can see at a glance where the verses/chorus is.

Direct record isn't an 'Audio Track' that we had in mind, when people talk about audio track they're usualy referring to DAW style audio track, where audio is represented as clips with waveforms that can be looped, stretched, cut, moved around within the lane, regardless of any grid/bpm etc.. I don't really see where audio tracks would fit in with the MPC software personally, because they're only really useful for when you're handling big recordings like a full 3 minute track of rapping, and where would you even slot that into the mpc software? Song Mode? I don't know :hmmm:
By pituchez Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:27 am
ahhh fdodskij ;)

i was just asking cuz i know some other peoples wanted it as well
im gona use a daw to record my vocals
i tried recording some vocals today and it was only recording on one side ;( **** mpc