Orphew wrote:I'm sorry, but for the mainstream hype, there are a lot of opinions and claps here...some one else has to say other kind of things. Or not...so I'll say bye bye Akai.
What was/are your other usernames on the forum? 
Orphew wrote:I don't understand the kind of "Stockholm syndrome" here...The bigger the time we are waiting for the bread the more enthusiastic we are with the crumbs?
Really (in fact, all of us know it, even AKAI people), this is only the MINIMUM that should be expected at the moment of this kind of product-line launching, and not the so awaited and desired 1.7 (seven!!!) version...or "the great white hope" 8during last 4-6 months).
It is completely intolerable this kind of hype/self complacency with things that should be there a lot time before..., based also in the historical pathway (the JJOS rescue memory, the adandon the ship policies, the weaaak flagship product development...) with such functions that are a must in a 2014 DAW or soft proposal...it's frustrating and a huge shame, for them, but also for us.
Yes I know I'm the killjoy today, reading the news and notes you finally and at last (?) get excited...but, really? exploding tracks is our revolution and reward? (a function that is part of all the DAWs, for example in Reaper (for 50$ or free) since...2000?). Drag & Drop as a great improvement? Read/rec out-midi from tracks into a DAW? copying pads? Scrolling or editing in a proper not shamefull way for 2014 computers (or even in 1995 mice) ? Can we be soooo hapy? Seriously? W. T . F. !!!??
Even paying for a hardware, we are not allowed (after 7 revisions!!) for using this hard piece in a proper way (without the silly shamefull VST loading!) as an "independent" configurable controller with whatever other soft or function into our usual DAW(s) and with other plugins (at the same time or not!!). Versatility is one of the main words in any industrial process for XXI
Come on guys...AKAI MPCs modern line should be providing quite more than the "N-esime hiphopish clone-cliche consumer object with the adequate marketing glow image" (especially taking into account that it was the Competence who show you the way of making things from your craddle in the market!...and definetely you should be able to up the ante, not being capable of even matching it).
All this is a joke. I don't give a **** about the typical outlandish ideas that justifies this kind of policies limiting the hard functions and compatibility in products of 400-900 euros??!! with ridiculous and byassed integrist closed minds fanboy POVS, regarding antipiracy or some similar bullshit. If you try to coerce me to buy different products from the company for 3 or 4 simple functions...the probable result will be that I will sell this one and never again buy anything from you. I will conserve only the 1K because of nostalgia and classic portable usability...only thanks to JJOS.
WE, the consumers of their products have the rights and must be the most critical with some unacceptable issues and strategies that only limit and cutoof the experience of the proper clients, without any reason.
I don't want to belittle the personal efforts of the staff involved and their time invested in giving us at least a worthy version for the product, 2 years later..., but criticize openly the company strategy and product lines filosophy, supoort, and real competitivity.
I'm sorry, but for the mainstream hype, there are a lot of opinions and claps here...some one else has to say other kind of things. Or not...so I'll say bye bye Akai.
Orphew wrote:I'm just me...not so used to talk or answering bullshit in a forum like this. I was waiting for this last opportunity in order to find that I was right and claim my position.
A opinion, as client and consumer, as valid and necessary as all from those believers, self (or akai)payed, fanboys or whatever...believe it or not.
Maybe a lot of people here are used to that kind of childish behavior regarding various user names, personalities and diverse wasting time stupidities...A lot of people was also used to Wall Street working as they know...and Economy being intended only in that "Financial Way behind the Wizard of Oz (black magic)"...and Everything worked fine...but...NO!
I'm here only to say what I've said...take it or leave it. AKAI is moribund on its own bled bed of Speculative Unprofessional Transnational approach....even closer to the pathetic Roland than Korg...far away from what its heritage and legacy would reclaim or even new competitors has arisen from their ground, for its ignominy.
For the moment the reallity is that the selling rates for these products (being that for the first time in a not despicable time, the hardware are really in a new quality standard (pads, for example...forgeting some old shames)), are quite worse than competence's, the value in second hand and product perception is decreasing and decreasing...and probably in a few months, a new products line will leave these ones in some sidetrack without "any value" for the market (excepting this forum and mpcstuff buyers) and a lot of people arguing that "once upon a time"...
everyone must look out for themselves...beacuse AKAI will not look for us.
Almost Lazy wrote:question for the testers...
whats the go with a program creating a series of programs for each track it might be used on..? this surely seems a messy list on the project folder...? (ie S1-T4)
is there a way of not allowing this to occur?
thanks in advance!
MaZe wrote:idk973 wrote:re up my questions:
.......for beta testers about the track explode thing.
if you do on your first track all your drums like on the exemple but you continue to use the others tracks to complete your beat (ex: track 2 sample theme, track 3 bass, track 4 vst etc...)
what happen when you explode your first track ? does the tracks order change ?
and if you add another drum thing (ex: a crash on the chorus sequence ) what all the exploded track interact to get all your others non-drum tracks on the same place ?
This is why the ability to rearrange tracks is absolutely essential now. Track explode is great but it can get messy too.
Orphew wrote:I don't understand the kind of "Stockholm syndrome" here...The bigger the time we are waiting for the bread the more enthusiastic we are with the crumbs?
Really (in fact, all of us know it, even AKAI people), this is only the MINIMUM that should be expected at the moment of this kind of product-line launching, and not the so awaited and desired 1.7 (seven!!!) version...or "the great white hope" 8during last 4-6 months).
It is completely intolerable this kind of hype/self complacency with things that should be there a lot time before..., based also in the historical pathway (the JJOS rescue memory, the adandon the ship policies, the weaaak flagship product development...) with such functions that are a must in a 2014 DAW or soft proposal...it's frustrating and a huge shame, for them, but also for us.
Yes I know I'm the killjoy today, reading the news and notes you finally and at last (?) get excited...but, really? exploding tracks is our revolution and reward? (a function that is part of all the DAWs, for example in Reaper (for 50$ or free) since...2000?). Drag & Drop as a great improvement? Read/rec out-midi from tracks into a DAW? copying pads? Scrolling or editing in a proper not shamefull way for 2014 computers (or even in 1995 mice) ? Can we be soooo hapy? Seriously? W. T . F. !!!??
Even paying for a hardware, we are not allowed (after 7 revisions!!) for using this hard piece in a proper way (without the silly shamefull VST loading!) as an "independent" configurable controller with whatever other soft or function into our usual DAW(s) and with other plugins (at the same time or not!!). Versatility is one of the main words in any industrial process for XXI
Come on guys...AKAI MPCs modern line should be providing quite more than the "N-esime hiphopish clone-cliche consumer object with the adequate marketing glow image" (especially taking into account that it was the Competence who show you the way of making things from your craddle in the market!...and definetely you should be able to up the ante, not being capable of even matching it).
All this is a joke. I don't give a **** about the typical outlandish ideas that justifies this kind of policies limiting the hard functions and compatibility in products of 400-900 euros??!! with ridiculous and byassed integrist closed minds fanboy POVS, regarding antipiracy or some similar bullshit. If you try to coerce me to buy different products from the company for 3 or 4 simple functions...the probable result will be that I will sell this one and never again buy anything from you. I will conserve only the 1K because of nostalgia and classic portable usability...only thanks to JJOS.
WE, the consumers of their products have the rights and must be the most critical with some unacceptable issues and strategies that only limit and cutoof the experience of the proper clients, without any reason.
I don't want to belittle the personal efforts of the staff involved and their time invested in giving us at least a worthy version for the product, 2 years later..., but criticize openly the company strategy and product lines filosophy, supoort, and real competitivity.
I'm sorry, but for the mainstream hype, there are a lot of opinions and claps here...some one else has to say other kind of things. Or not...so I'll say bye bye Akai.
DJ Hellfire wrote:MaZe wrote:
This is why the ability to rearrange tracks is absolutely essential now. Track explode is great but it can get messy too.
Yeah, we are definitely aware of this. Just wasn't time to handle this for 1.7.
DJ Hellfire wrote:
One thing you have to remember here is that Akai **** up from the start by thinking people only wanted current MPC's in a computer form. So that's what they made and put out. They weren't anticipating people wanting it to be more DAW like. And that's what created the need for so much catching up to be done as compared to other DAW's. Over time, they are having to basically redo the entire concept of the software, while still keeping it able to be used by the people that have already bought it. That is the reality. You can say all you want how all of this **** should have been there from day 1, but at the end of the day, they put out an MPC, and it did what MPC's have always done (for the most part), not what DAW's have done. So that's why this stuff is so MAJOR for actual MPC users, and elementary for actual DAW user's converting to or coming back to MPC's.
THE ADVERSARY wrote:
TT_Lab wrote:Non corp will look after you...only after your money...that is a known capitalism truth.
So get over it an grow up!
pk1 wrote:
when you guys respond so ignorantly, you make yourself look bad. this is a valid rant. hellfire responded like an adult. fanu's response, was along the way i felt too. but what the guys says is valid. and when you respond with attacks your admitting to feeling insecure about your purchase. or what class you might fall in under his rant. let the man talk. and bid him farewell. we have bigger problems.
like a multicore option that is destroying the stability of the software.
THE ADVERSARY wrote:For someone WITH ONLY ONE POST to come on here talking such nonsense when for the first time since the days of the 4k Akai is finally making an attempt was nothing more than trolling.
We have seen the same type of nonsense with new products or new OS releases for years.
We also typically see people who have been MIA come back to troll, just looks like this time a new ID was created.
