Side-Chain in 1.7?

Does Side-Chain exist as an effect in 1.7? Or are plugins still the answer?

I don't know the answer but I'm pretty sure if you read through Lamp Dog's post on page 1 you will find what you are looking for.

http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=174331

I didn't see it in there. But does that really mean it doesn't exist?

I'm not sure about 1.7 - but I will look into it after I update my system tonight. In previous versions - You can Frankenstein it if you have another surface: I ran just the kick track out on a Line out of the Ren, and the rest out L/R. Two tracks (one for the kick, the other for rest) into Ableton (or whatever DAW) and then comp sidechain on Rest track making input from kick track- you can do it that way, but it's kind of a ****, since it can get hairy if the kick is not consistent as you have to jack up the output on the receiving channel. Really depends on the cut. does that make sense?

What plug-in have you been using? Do tell.

FabFilter Pro-C has a decent preset that gives a deep pumping sound.

peace

sidechaining the whole track, damn that's cold... squeezing out everything... I would only sidechain the bass track to the kick, the purpose of which is to cut the bass when the kick hits so that the bass parts don't mix and mud up the sound..

The mixer is much improved for 1.7 but it doesn't support sidechaining, because there is no way to route audio to another track, and there's definitely no way to route the audio to an auxillary track with no send to master path which is what you want for a sidechain...

If you want to sidechain the easiest way now that track explode is included would be to track out your project as stems with your drum parts exploded, and import it into a DAW for mixing, and apply the sidechain there (from the kick drum stem to the bass line stem). Or do as I and others do and use ReaRoute to virtually hook the mpc software up to Reaper and make tracks using both programs open.

There's a plugin I have called Twisted Lemon Sidekick5. Seems to work fairly well in the MPC software. I think a company took it over from Twisted lemon called http://beatrig.com/

fdodds wrote:sidechaining the whole track, damn that's cold... squeezing out everything... I would only sidechain the bass track to the kick, the purpose of which is to cut the bass when the kick hits so that the bass parts don't mix and mud up the sound..

you would know better than me...LOL. I'll try that sometime

it can be cool to sidechain other parts to give synths a pumping sort of sound, but i wouldnt want any of my other drums in a channel getting sidechained, or any elements you want to sit 'on top' of the mix

BDRAKE wrote:There's a plugin I have called Twisted Lemon Sidekick5. Seems to work fairly well in the MPC software. I think a company took it over from Twisted lemon called http://beatrig.com/

Does that vst require you to put it on the sending track and the receiving track? I completely forgot that there are vst's that work that way, using two instances to send messages to each other... I have no idea about those, I was thinking about compressors that take auxillary inputs, that's how I do it in reaper with reacomp.

fdodds wrote:

BDRAKE wrote:There's a plugin I have called Twisted Lemon Sidekick5. Seems to work fairly well in the MPC software. I think a company took it over from Twisted lemon called http://beatrig.com/

Does that vst require you to put it on the sending track and the receiving track? I completely forgot that there are vst's that work that way, using two instances to send messages to each other... I have no idea about those, I was thinking about compressors that take auxillary inputs, that's how I do it in reaper with reacomp.

Yes it does. It even has routing if you put it on multiple tracks.