Sequence copy on 1.7

I'll give this a try after work today guys. Thanks for the help!

Thanks very much, that works!!!!
Out of interest, is that how you would build up a song using that same method?

Fanu wrote:Purelogic, use the track mixer for muting or just pull their level down in the sequences where you don't want them to play…and your workflow is there, and this does work in song mode!

The pic there simply illustrates one program with its two separate mixer views: track and program. Program is global, and track is sequence-specific.

Boom!

Still causes the same problem. When I copy sequence 1, with it muted or the level all the way down, it still is effects the mute or levels of that track in the next sequence. This is what's driving me crazy!

My Program Mixer screen has a million channel strips, none of which show levels or signs of life... Not in 1.7, or any earlier versions of the software. My Track Mixer page shows all the levels. On the current project I'm working on, I have 21 tracks that have all been mixed and had effects added to some of the channels. My workflow for the past few years, has been to mute the tracks along the way, and copy that sequence via the Edit Sequence screen, and choose option 5, Copy a Sequence. Once that was done, I'd unmute a few more tracks and build up all my sequences to ultimately use in Song Mode. This process works very fast and super effective for many years. I guess there are other ways to craft a track, but I'm unaware of them. This method is used by many others I've noticed.

Bringing down the level instead of muting a track still causes the same issue. When it effects one sequence, it effects all sequences in this fashion. I'm still baffled on what I'm doing, or have been doing wrong all these years? Why is this workflow style not allowed in 1.7?

DJPureLogic wrote:My Program Mixer screen has a million channel strips, none of which show levels or signs of life... Not in 1.7, or any earlier versions of the software. My Track Mixer page shows all the levels. On the current project I'm working on, I have 21 tracks that have all been mixed and had effects added to some of the channels. My workflow for the past few years, has been to mute the tracks along the way, and copy that sequence via the Edit Sequence screen, and choose option 5, Copy a Sequence. Once that was done, I'd unmute a few more tracks and build up all my sequences to ultimately use in Song Mode. This process works very fast and super effective for many years. I guess there are other ways to craft a track, but I'm unaware of them. This method is used by many others I've noticed.

Bringing down the level instead of muting a track still causes the same issue. When it effects one sequence, it effects all sequences in this fashion. I'm still baffled on what I'm doing, or have been doing wrong all these years? Why is this workflow style not allowed in 1.7?

You're doing it wrong. Maybe someone can make a vid for you.

MaZe wrote:

DJPureLogic wrote:My Program Mixer screen has a million channel strips, none of which show levels or signs of life... Not in 1.7, or any earlier versions of the software. My Track Mixer page shows all the levels. On the current project I'm working on, I have 21 tracks that have all been mixed and had effects added to some of the channels. My workflow for the past few years, has been to mute the tracks along the way, and copy that sequence via the Edit Sequence screen, and choose option 5, Copy a Sequence. Once that was done, I'd unmute a few more tracks and build up all my sequences to ultimately use in Song Mode. This process works very fast and super effective for many years. I guess there are other ways to craft a track, but I'm unaware of them. This method is used by many others I've noticed.

Bringing down the level instead of muting a track still causes the same issue. When it effects one sequence, it effects all sequences in this fashion. I'm still baffled on what I'm doing, or have been doing wrong all these years? Why is this workflow style not allowed in 1.7?

You're doing it wrong. Maybe someone can make a vid for you.

I guess so. I've made hundreds of great tracks using this method. Very fast workflow too. I was never aware it was incorrect. Pretty bummed out. I've had this project in limbo for 3 days now. I can't do anything with it...

Whats the purpose of Song Mode and coping sequences if none of the changes will stay from sequence to sequence?

Maybe Akai should activate the switch for global mixer on/off; some peeps have got familiar with their old, non-unified way of working and made songs that use it.

That switch did exist in the 1.7 preview video, after all.

Fanu wrote:Maybe Akai should activate the switch for global mixer on/off; some peeps have got familiar with their old, non-unified way of working and made songs that use it.

That switch did exist in the 1.7 preview video, after all.

I've gotten hash remarks on here for suggesting that very option...

i put this simple vid up hope this clears up the confusion…

Art James may I put your video in the video compilation thread?

That clears it up beyond doubt, the method employed in 1.6 can still be used in 1.7.
Art James, is that how you compose on the MPC software, I certainly do but can't help wondering if it's not what Akai intended?
Cheers.

Art James wrote:

i put this simple vid up hope this clears up the confusion…

Yup, good stuff! I still have had no luck. This project was created in 1.7. When I copy the original sequence in any way (I have 21 tracks total in this sequence I've been trying to finish this for 3 days now since the update, most of them are muted because its going to be the first sequence in the song of course), it still reflects on every other sequence no matter if I mute the track, or turn the volume all the way down on each track.

I mix my levels and add effects on all 21 of my tracks in the Track Mixer screen, like I've always done. That part has not changed in any of the software versions. When I copy that sequence via the 5th option "Copy a Sequence", and add changes to the second, or any other sequence after that, it changes them on the first or all sequences. This is the issue still.

Why have a sequence copy option, and Song Mode if none of the sequences will hold their position when I mute or unmute tracks on each sequence in the Track Mixer screen? I've used this method, right or wrong, for years. I've churned out hundreds of tracks with very fast workflow. I'm sure the Ren can be used in many ways to craft a track. I don't understand the logic with this default option in 1.7. I love the other features, but WTF?

Hi logic, first of all, I can imagine how frustrating this is. Stupid question: have you tried to reproduce the video with a new project? At least, if this works, we know that the function you need works. And maybe there is some kind of bug when importing projects done in earlier versions. Just my 2 cents.

Italian Beats wrote:Hi logic, first of all, I can imagine how frustrating this is. Stupid question: have you tried to reproduce the video with a new project? At least, if this works, we know that the function you need works. And maybe there is some kind of bug when importing projects done in earlier versions. Just my 2 cents.

This project was created on 1.7. I have a solid workflow I have been using for years. I'm game for eventually learning a new or "better" method that everyone keep's telling me about. My gripe is, the way I've crafted tracks for years on my beloved Ren, is no longer an option. Why not is my question? It's been making me insane the past few days. I can churn a solid quality track in a matter of hours with perfect results, no crashing or anything on 1.6 and earlier versions of the software. I know other Ren users who craft, or did craft all their tracks this way too. Why make the track mutes not work when sequencing tracks on the Track Mixer page when you copy the sequence?

Sorry man, I did not get it. I have not updated my sw but I work in a store where we've upgraded today. I will check and see what will happen (I will try a new project as well as importing one of mine) and get back to you. I am pretty interested as I use your method as well.