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By reubenrr Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:34 am
So...
I've been looking into how to up the recording quality of my samples. For years I've been using a beat up Numark DM1001x mixer. Its pretty much on the outs as of now. So I'm researching what would be the best purchase for my MPC.

Pre-amps can be pricey. A lot of people on here say that UA pre-amps are top of the line. The Solo/610 looks like the best option simply because I don't imagine needing a dual channel preamp (all I got is my MPC and two SL1200s).

I've also been looking into new mixers. I've liked the look of the Native Instruments Z2 for awhile. I'm desperately in need of a new mixer.

So here's my question(s):
If I'm looking into audio quality, which is superior, the UA 610 or a Z2 mixer?
Also, is the Z2 all hype? I'm sure there has to be mixers out there that are just as good for far cheaper.


I understand that UA is solely amplifying, however is it that MUCH better than the preamps found in a Z2 mixer? Let me know peoples!
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By SimonInAustralia Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:51 am
If these are to connect your turntable outputs into your MPC inputs, then the UA Solo/610 is not going to do what you want.

The UA Solo/610 is a microphone and DI preamp, the microphone input, or DI input, are amplified and output as a balanced pro line level signal.

To feed your turntables into your MPC, you need a phono preamp, which takes a turntable phono output, amplifies it, applies a RIAA de-emphasis curve to make it sound right, and usually outputs it as an unbalanced consumer line level signal.

They are two different types of preamps.

You would normally put a phono preamp inbetween the turntable phono outputs and the MPC inputs.

You would normally put a mic/DI preamp inbetween the MPC output and computer audio interface inputs.

Also, disregarding the difference in phono preamp vs mic/DI preamp, the UA Solo/610 is a mono (single channel) preamp, but your turntable output is stereo (2 channels).
By reubenrr Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:04 pm
Ahhh I see. Well I mean a mixer has phono inputs right? If thats the case should I just buy a Z2? Or if not any suggestions for a phono preamp? I've been scouring ebay but i just don't know what's gonna give me the best quality signal.
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By SimonInAustralia Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:07 pm
Yes, a DJ mixer has phono inputs.

Your options are probably another DJ mixer, or a phono preamp.

I am not up on phono preamps, what is good, what is worth buying to get better quality than inbuilt DJ mixer preamps, etc., I'll leave that to someone else to recommend.
By reubenrr Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:55 pm
yeah a little beyond what i can afford. its a beautiful mixer though, not sure if i'd really need anything that high end. what do you guys use to record?
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By Lampdog Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:39 pm
Tascam m-164uf (effects, usb audio interface), mic, line, phono inputs.
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16-channel mixing
6 XLR microphone inputs with phantom power and hipass filter
5 stereo line inputs
3-band EQ on mic channels 1-6
2-band EQs on line channels 7-10 and main output
RIAA phono preamp on channels 9-10 (RCA)
Unique design with built-in meter bridge
Sub and Main output busses (1/4" outputs)
Separate stereo and mono outputs for main and aux (1/4")
Two aux sends (1/4" outputs)

The M-164FX adds:
Stereo effects processor with 16 presets for reverb, delay, chorus and other effects

The M-164UF adds:
Stereo effects processor with 16 presets for reverb, delay, chorus and other effects
USB 2.0 audio interface providing 16 outputs to computer and stereo return from computer at 96kHz / 24-bit
Supports Mac OS X, Windows XP, Windows Vista
Includes Cubase LE4 48-track recording workstation software

Me, I use RME UFX, pretty sure that's not what your looking for.

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30 Input / 30 Output channels
12 x Analog I/O
4 x Mic/Instrument Preamp, digitally controlled
1 x AES/EBU I/O
2 x ADAT I/O (or 1 x ADAT I/O plus 1 x SPDIF I/O optical)
1 x Word Clock I/O
2 x MIDI I/O
1 x FireWire 400
1 x USB 2.0
TotalMix FX
Overview Analog I/O

Back:

Inputs 1-8 (TRS - balanced)
Output 1-2 - Main Output (XLR - balanced)
Output 3-8 (TRS - balanced)
Front:

Inputs: 9-12 (XLR/TRS Combo - balanced)
Outputs: 9/10, 11/12 - Phones (TRS - Stereo)
By reubenrr Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:34 pm
that tascam looks feasible. I like the fact that its a usb interface as well. and i found one for as cheap as $175. thanks for the suggestion!
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By Lampdog Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:55 pm
Inside the daw you can most likely select the m-164uf as soundcard.
Afterwards you can choose an input on the m-164uf.

I cannot find anywhere that states EACH ch can separately be chosen. Some audio interfaces can do this and some can't. If not, then maybe just main outs (2ch) which is still very doable.