MPC Renaissance vs Legacy MPC

Hello MPC community,

I am going to start my journey in producing and sampling and whatnot and was wondering where I should start. I have had my eye on the MPC Renaissance but I am hesitant due to it not being a standalone and requiring a computer. Is it better to start with one of the older MPCs or should I go all out and purchase the Renaissance from the beginning?

Any input will be appreciated.

Thanks

if thats you re really first steps into producing why don t you try a daw like propellerheads reason ? it has everything that you need for producing and its easy and simple to learn.

if you buy the ren you buy the mpc wotkflow you should try if it fits for you.

I am assuming you already have a computer, so consider mpc ren or even mpc studio. Otherwise, take a look at maybe an MPC 1000, or MPC 2000XL (with card reader, not floppy)

I you are just testing the waters, keep it simple and test drive various hardware and software. Most DAWs have free download and evaluation, such as Reaper, reason, or even fruityloops (its a start), or many others.

I am an old MPC head but I rell all to find what works for them and to stick with it, whether its keyboard workstation, software, mpc, native instruments, or hybrid solution.

The main instrument in producing is YOU, everything else is just a tool.

In my opinion you can't go wrong with either 1000 or 2500 with JJ-OS

rgeethrizzle wrote:Is it better to start with one of the older MPCs or should I go all out and purchase the Renaissance from the beginning.

Buying a Ren from the start may tarnish your view of the MPC, so I would avoid it personally.

With a 2500 you've got room to manoeuvre upwards, sideways or downwards in MPC terms depending on how you get on with it.

Coz wrote:

rgeethrizzle wrote:Is it better to start with one of the older MPCs or should I go all out and purchase the Renaissance from the beginning.

Buying a Ren from the start may tarnish your view of the MPC, so I would avoid it personally.

this.

it took me 6 months of dedication to actually get the hang of it..

its a large investment no matter how much money you have..

if you are going to get the MPC REN just promise yourself you wont sell it..

I had many days where I wanted to sell it lol

Same here!

Brought my studio and thought WTF, how does this and that work.

before you buy, check out the tutorials and videos on youtube how to do things.

probably best to start of with a cheap one like a MPC500 or something?

If you dont like the workflow then you can try something else

rgeethrizzle wrote: but I am hesitant due to it not being a standalone and requiring a computer.

If working with a computer doesn't sound that appealing to you then you're probably better of with hardware.

Lampdog wrote:2500 w/ jjos

Linn 9000.

1000/2500 with jj

but youll also want to pair it up with a couple really nice synths, and maybe a step sequencer since it doesnt do that too well. a midi key/knob controller might be nice too.

rgeethrizzle wrote:Is it better to start with one of the older MPCs or should I go all out and purchase the Renaissance

If you want to learn the classic MPC workflow without being mesmerized by ever an growing choice options, settings, conflicts, bugs, updates, and of course being TETHERED TO A COMPUTER, I'd recommend a hardware MPC.

All things considered, an MPC2000XL is a great place to start and affordable.

If you have deeper pockets, and want a machine Roger Linn toiled over...

of course in actuality, whether roger linn was involved is irrelevant. that whole thing is a total myth with regards to the value of your music. of course its your choice to buy into it or not. that being said, the older linn produced mpcs are possibly more solid on a microscopic level timing wise (ive been told conflicting things regarding this by true believers), as there seems to be a rumor going around that roger added some special sauce to the machine waay back. he even denies it in a video that is kickin around somewhere... oh well. if you want modern flexibility and feature set, the highest scoring standalone model/os pairing in my book is 1000/2500 with jjos2xl. the only choice besides the mpc4000 but that aint so portable. . get an old rack sampler if you want 12 bit sound! dont buy an old mpc and walk around as if it makes your music legit. limiting yourself to technology used in the early 90s... its nostalgia, nothing more. hip hop founders wore that sound out. some act like its a sacrament and to be down with old mpcs is to be cool with hip hop. it makes you some kind of insider which is laughable at the very least! learn how to mix and it wont matter what youre using.

Dude, just stop it already. You're preaching bullshit.

People get inspired by certain machines / sound. Why do you have to make it your mission to destroy this "vintage drum machine myth"??? Are you bored?

I've owned an MPC2500, 2000XL, etc... I've never wanted an SP1200, nor an MPC60... then one day i got to visit a studio from a friends friend, and he had an SP1200 and MPC60. I could try both myself and get a feel of the workflow and sound. I have since sold all my MPCs except the MPC500 and bought an SP1200 and MPC60.

People get inspired by certain machines. Why do you think these old working horses are still in demand?

Again, you're talking bollocks.

PS: Buying another 2500 soon, because i miss it.

PS2: Inspiration for music making comes from yourself, not the machines. If you are not inspired, an SP1200 won't inspire you anymore than an MPC2500. Machines don't make music, people do. But when you are inspired to make music, maybe some people prefer an MPC1000, some a 2500, and some an MPC3000, 60 or an SP1200... **** get over it already and stop preaching your bullshit dude, it gets really annoying real fast.

No personal battles here - take it to PM or go head-to-head on the Beat Battle forum and be done with it.