From chops to loops

Okay, I had a two bar break and I zoned the thing up into six pieces. Now my question is: if I want to create a new *loop* pattern from these slices, how would I go about doing that?

So far, I've been playing the pads in real time while the sounds were recording to a sequence in hopes that I could get the new pattern perfectly timed. I've come pretty close but even when the pattern sounds 90% correct, I still have no idea how I could turn the pattern into a loop for further editing. Is this even possible on the MPC-2000XL or is this just wishful thinking.

Thanks

hits sound better if you chop em' in recycle first, (see multisampling tutorial) some stuff doesn't work full stop in my experience, Have you tried moving invididual hits once you have put stuff in in realtime ?

laters Kid ColLecT

i would use recycle also. save you a lot of time on the looping.

Thanks for the help guys but since I don't have Recycle yet (and I want to see how far I can push the MPC's capabilities before using anything else) is there any method of turning a sequence into a .snd file so that you can edit it in TRIM?

I've been recording in real time chopped drums onto a sequence in hopes of creating a decent loop-able 2 bar break but obviously the results aren't always timed perfectly. I've followed this up by trying to use the erase function to cut out any unwanted parts of the sequence of the new break but it that isn't producing much for me right now...

I read that Shadow only used the MPC-60II for Endtroducing...how did he get those drum pattern changes on just that machine alone? For example, for the drums 'What Does Your Soul Look Like Part 1" he samples David Young's "Joe Splivgates". When you listen to Shadow's track the drums sound as if he pulled them straight off the source record, no chopping or anything. But in the actual song, the drums come from a long solo and there's a lot of filler inbetween the individual kicks and snares that he samples. Basically, I'm trying to figure out how to accomplish what Shadow did on an MPC-60II with my MPC-2000XL.

Right you are having problems with getting the drums to sit right once youv'e played them in really time

Have you tried moving them around after they are in using step editing,
From the main screen press F1 from there you can fiddle with individau; notes and their parameters, I don'y use it myself but I think it may help you (search the past posts for help)

Other things to try:
- Tweek the parms of invidual pads in he pgm try doing will the loop is playing

- add effects like reverb and echo to drum in the mixer if you have fx again try tweeking whilst the loop is playing.

-turn the quantize off or fiddle with that

-make sure you try to create your own sound not somebody elses

sorry my ideas are not very clear i just fiddle till i'm happy with the sound

Good luck

KiD CollECt

http://www.visionfunk.com

Sample air (empty vinyl space) and use it as a filler where no sound is playing, Shadow speaks of doing this too.

Ares 12 wrote:Sample air (empty vinyl space) and use it as a filler where no sound is playing, Shadow speaks of doing this too.

Yeah. This is a good technique for 'bodying' up snares. Just sample some vinyl air, trail it off behind your snare, give it a nice decay. Voila! FULL sounding snares, instead of abrupt, robotic sounding snares.

How do you do that exactly? Do you add the air after the snare in a sequence, or do you make a new sound (snare + air)? If the latter how do you do that?

How do you do that exactly? Do you add the air after the snare in a sequence, or do you make a new sound (snare + air)? If the latter how do you do that?

How do you do that exactly? Do you add the air after the snare in a sequence, or do you make a new sound (snare + air)? If the latter how do you do that?

Im a die hard mpc2k kid but I have t admit having seen wavelab in action at the weekend that it is THE tool for choppin up breaks!!!

I took the dixie chicken break and chopped up the first loopable bar and pu t it back together the way I WANTED and it sounded so fat - tons of natural sounding hats , differentvelocity snares, the lot.

If you get a chance to use this tool, do it.

other than that check kid collects recommendations - these are the things I do, to good effect.

cheers

m*

Peter M wrote:How do you do that exactly? Do you add the air after the snare in a sequence, or do you make a new sound (snare + air)? If the latter how do you do that?

Just lace it in behind your snare.... ex: So you have your drums layed down.... snares are on track2. Get on track two, and hit your newly shaped "air" in right behind your already programmed snare......

So, like you said. Add the air behind the snare in the seq.

Simple as that. air snare air snare snare air snare air snare bear hare snair where? There!