Bug reports & end-user support for Akai's MPC Software 'controllers' including the new MPC Studio 2, the MPC Touch, MPC Renaissance & original MPC Studio and MPC StudioB lack.
By sneenlantern Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:05 am
I'm new to the whole "hybdrid MPC" thing, having bought an MPC studio a couple weeks ago, and I love it so far, even though I still feel awkward tethered to a computer. I bought my 2000XL in 2001, and used it for over a decade, and even toured with it, opening for bands like Of Montreal with my band. But finally I had to part with it for many reasons.

I'm still learning the basics of the MPC Studio, which is a whole new world to me, but I like it a lot. I like being able to sequence Vienna Instruments soft synths, to make like groove classical music, and I'm eager to use it to sequence hardware synths too.

I like having one instrument on each output of my audio interface. I am using a MOTU audio express right now, and with the four outputs + the SPDIF stereo, I have six channels of out right now for instruments or drums. Next year I'm going to upgrade to a different MOTU I'm looking at that has ten analog outputs.

But I'm running into the limits of my PC. I have a Y510 Lenovo, with 8 gigs of Ram. I'm thinking of A) upgrading the ram to 16 gigs, or B) upgrading to a new workstation laptop, with possibly 24 gigs of Ram, upgradeable to 32, and with a firewire port so I can use a firewire interface, and possibly with a SSD drive for samples for Vienna Instruments, etc.

What kind of computers are you guys using? Macs? PC's? Sometimes when Studio gags, and the CPU level goes up, I wonder if it's the ram, or the processor, or maybe even bugs. I've found it's best to avoid MPC Studio effects for the most part, and use outside ones. Also, certain vsts's don't work so well. Keep in mind, I am using Studio as standalone, not in a DAW, and I record onto a Yamaha AW4416 16 track.

Anyway, sorry for the novel here, but this is what I've experienced so far with the Studio, and just wondering what take on it you guys have.
By dazastah Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:35 am
if your into using other vst samplers inside mpc software your heading in the right direction with a new workstation laptop...

things to consider are,

ram cpu disk...

vst samplers generally speaking will use ram, (you can disk stream mite be good if you install ssd but i haven't tested this myself) and if your making classical stuff, you probably have a preloaded orchestra ready to go. This will probably take up quite a bit of ram. having 24gig is a future proof buy, not really something you need.

You could consider still using the old laptop with a new one, where the old one becomes a soundmodule driven by a midi cable.. This relieves the load of the main computer, as the main computer will only use mpc software samples, and midi sequencing... if you catch my drift.. You'd need two motu cards to do this. but this setup is much more flexible. And you may understanding it easier if your good with external midi gear..

Latency/stability really depends on soundcard and its driver and your cpu load.. Obviously the quickest cpu with the most cores will be the best option or have the most positive effect. Then the driver/soundcard will be next..

Yosemite isn't offically supported ?? And neither is win 8... But i can confirm that it works fine in windows 8.1 And some users on here are using yosemite with no problems..


Firewire will be a issue.. as new macbooks dont use this anymore, and instead have the thunderbolt port. You can get adaptors, but i dont think most manufacturers support it.. Things to check i guess...

I find macs generally easier to get setup than win machines.. As win machines have so much shit on them that have to be disabled and uninstalled before hand. especially with laptops...
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By SimonInAustralia Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:50 am
dazastah wrote:Yosemite isn't offically supported ?? And neither is win 8... But i can confirm that it works fine in windows 8.1

:hmmm:

http://www.akaipro.com/product/mpcrenaissance#system_requirements
Windows: 2 GHz PentiumĀ® 4 or CeleronĀ® compatible CPU or faster (multicore CPU recommended) 2 GB RAM (4 GB recommended) Windows 7 and Windows 8 (32 or 64-bit) with DVD-ROM drive
By sneenlantern Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:27 am
dazastah wrote:if your into using other vst samplers inside mpc software your heading in the right direction with a new workstation laptop...



yeah I might get a new mac or a workstation laptop, I'm really having a hard time deciding. But I go into the Vienna Software forums and these dudes have mac pros with 64 gigs of ram and I'm like, holy smokes!

I might also run two computers, having one working as a midi slave, I haven't decided. I'm pretty ambitious over what I want to accomplish here, and I'm not sure how I'm going to do it. I really want to have a whole ensemble/orchestra being run by the MPC, whether it's classical or synths.
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By SimonInAustralia Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:23 am
sneenlantern wrote:I go into the Vienna Software forums and these dudes have mac pros with 64 gigs of ram and I'm like, holy smokes!

That is because Vienna is focused on classical orchestral samples, they want to have lots of high quality multi-layered orchestral samples loaded up into RAM and ready to play with minimal latency, along with the processing power to handle the convolution reverbs..
By sneenlantern Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:53 am
SimonInAustralia wrote:That is because Vienna is focused on classical orchestral samples, they want to have lots of high quality multi-layered orchestral samples loaded up into RAM and ready to play with minimal latency, along with the processing power to handle the convolution reverbs..



That's what I'm trying to do, basically, but with sequencing done by the MPC, but I don't need the convolution reverbs as I'm doing that later once it's in my DAW, or through the mixer for live play. Honestly, I don't need the type of power they are doing, cause I'm interested in more like smaller ensembles of maybe 8-16 instruments, and not any more than that.

I'm gonna go with just 16 gigs of ram for now, and work up to more if I need it. I don't know if I'm going to go Mac or PC. I have experience with both, but my last mac died and I only have a PC now, so I'm not sure what direction to go. Thunderbolt is nice, though.
By pituchez Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:22 am
man..the "live recording" or what ever its called resampler..is really dope for that..you just record a vst and then discard it or records the next thing..it pwns..and you wont use a much ram/cpu D: