why everybody wants an Sp1200 when an MPC60 is much cheaper?

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why everybody wants an Sp1200 when an MPC60 is much cheaper?

By JAYCEE3K Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:24 pm
For those looking for a machine for a certain sound on drums (12-bit) I don't know why so many ppl insist on the sp 1200 when the MP 60 exist. WOuldn't the mpc 60 be just as good an option and cost way less?

what is it about each machine that make ppl choose one over the other?
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Re: why everybody wants an Sp1200 when an MPC60 is much chea

By kneebone77 Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:35 pm
First off, you would have to hear the difference to understand. Not only hear the way that these instruments/machines change the audio but also hear the difference in it's sequencers. Believe me bro, the each have unique qualities that endear them to the folks that love to use them.

Though they are both 12-bit, the SP-12/1200 can be a bit more "aggressive" in it's sound especially when pitched down. There is a thread somewhere around that did a "grittyness wars" comparison. I'd check that out or search for something similar on the web.
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Re: why everybody wants an Sp1200 when an MPC60 is much chea

By Star One Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:50 am
Looks go into it. Reputation and history. Workflow. How well known they are from all that.

A lot of people keep going for the same thing over and over, rather then find their own thing and learn to rock it hard, they will just go for the "hot item". It's like the S950. A lot of people really get busy on it, but it's not for me. For the longest I wanted one, but over time of hearing it, how it works and all that, I found something that I kinda felt for a lot more. Ended up liking the sound better.

So that's the one for me. Might not be for others, but I don't get a specific piece of gear just to impress others or have bragging rights (There are also people like that).

There is so much out there that is great and not even noticed from following the norm. Of course what you like wont effect what others like. Same should apply to you.

Theres even a lot of people who think the SP-1200 sounds like shit.

But then there is everything that's loved so much more (for good reasons!) about the SP-1200 that makes it so sought after.

There could be a million reasons that one person likes one thing over another. I don't get into comparing things, outside of what appeals to me. Can't really say everybody wants an SP1200. Like I used to really really want an SP1200 till I realized I couldn't figure out why I actually wanted one, outside of how cool it would be to rock an SP1200, and the machines history (I catch myself thinking like that too, so what I said before goes for me too).

You have an MPC 60?
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Re: why everybody wants an Sp1200 when an MPC60 is much chea

By peterpiper Sun Dec 21, 2014 7:44 pm
I can tell you why I want the SP1200 ( I won't pay the price tho and so I probably won't ever have this machine)
I read the manual, studied the sound and the way it works and although there are some really nasty limitations (like the 1 track sequencer, no finetuning of samples) I think this machine has the workflow that I really would like to use. I also really like the sound.

While all samplers sound different (more or less) the SP stands out more and is more easy to recognize just like the Casio FZ1 or SP303.

peace
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Re: why everybody wants an Sp1200 when an MPC60 is much chea

By kneebone77 Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:49 pm
I once briefly owned a SP-1200.
I bought it solely to flip, but while I had it a gave a try just to see what the hype was about. And honestly after using one I get why people love them so much.
I personally would not want to spend that kind of dough for such a task specific machine, but I can say that I do get it...
Totally aside from the "sound" the work flow and functionality is smart. I was wizzing around on that thing without ever reading the manual, just the printed clues on the unit. One thing that should not be overlooked about this unit is the fun factor. The SP-1200 is an incredibly fun machine to work with. Sampling, tuning, chopping is dumb easy and well laid out. Because of my short stint with this unit, it kind of makes me want a SP-12.
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Re: why everybody wants an Sp1200 when an MPC60 is much chea

By jibber Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:28 pm
kneebone77 wrote:I once briefly owned a SP-1200.
I bought it solely to flip, but while I had it a gave a try just to see what the hype was about. And honestly after using one I get why people love them so much.
I personally would not want to spend that kind of dough for such a task specific machine, but I can say that I do get it...
Totally aside from the "sound" the work flow and functionality is smart. I was wizzing around on that thing without ever reading the manual, just the printed clues on the unit. One thing that should not be overlooked about this unit is the fun factor. The SP-1200 is an incredibly fun machine to work with. Sampling, tuning, chopping is dumb easy and well laid out. Because of my short stint with this unit, it kind of makes me want a SP-12.


Very good way of describing the appeal of an SP (which can be a turn off for others of course (the limitations)).
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Re: why everybody wants an Sp1200 when an MPC60 is much chea

By marrelarre Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:31 pm
Well people have already covered it, 12-bit doesnt really say much, they sound completely different.

The SP1200 just sound so damn amazing, theres nothing like it. Its also fun but the main thing is the sound, if it didnt have that I dont see a single person using it.

The SP1200 is behind the sound of a lot of the golden era stuff and is the most recognizable sound there is out there i think.

I owned one and kinda miss it sometimes :(

Re: why everybody wants an Sp1200 when an MPC60 is much chea

By phineus Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:22 pm
To be fair the MPC 60 I is also getting quite pricey now. People are after that 60 magic swing. The sound isn't all that gritty... not even if you were to sample in at high speeds and pitch them down.

The 60 II is cheaper on the other hand but that's probably only because it looks like a 1970s fast food cash till lol
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