MPC 5000 equals garbage

let me start off by saying I am NOT a production wizard by any means. My experience with the MPC has taught me that this machine is complete garbage for electronic music producers who create their own sounds. It is good and very very very good for hip hop producers who want to use this machine for its minimal capabilities. But when I am mixing multiple Instruments with modulation and stored motion sequencing. This machine will not save all of my instruments nor will it save all of my keys. The Midi is garbage and will not clock properly with just about everything I plug into it. This machine stand alone is alright but its not worth the $3000 retail that they asked for it when it first came out. that being said does anybody know of a machine that does the same thing and actually works the way its supposed to?

MPC 2500 w/ JJ OS

MPC 4000

I had thought I'd read on here, that the 5000's OG operating system runs midi smoother than the most current akai OS..

yes I have looked at those machines and they don't do nearly what I need them to do. Yes Akai will tell you that it's midi clock is awesome but it is not. and most of the people on this forum site are people who work for a Akai who will miss lead you and provide misinformation.
honestly my progression in sound manipulation modulation music theory is increasing and as it increases this machine becomes useless more and more.

Jae MacKay wrote:yes I have looked at those machines and they don't do nearly what I need them to do. Yes Akai will tell you that it's midi clock is awesome but it is not. and most of the people on this forum site are people who work for a Akai who will miss lead you and provide misinformation.
honestly my progression in sound manipulation modulation music theory is increasing and as it increases this machine becomes useless more and more.

nobody on here works for akai... the guys who did got chased off the site.

If the 4000 doesn't do what you need.. the 5000 will never do what you need.

I think this machine is what you need.

Jae MacKay wrote: and most of the people on this forum site are people who work for a Akai who will miss lead you and provide misinformation.

Talking about misinformation.!

peace

The modulation capabilities of the 5000 are slim. I tend to concentrate on the good aspects of the machine, ie assigning slider to tune of a sample that has being patched phrased, assign to cutoff and resonance using model 2 filter assign effect send of reverb gate (out), assigned to release of a bass sample is a good technique as well.

Remember in saving a project, always make a new folder, and do save all, each folder has a new project.

As others have said, if only akai had give the 5000 just one more update, mainly to iron out the incongruities, then the machine would have had a better rep. Sometimes I think how this is such a ****hot machine, then I get cut down by a quirk in the OS. The midi timing is ok I've found on the whole.

Again as others have said mpc 1000/JJOS and perhaps a z series sampler would give you more creative power.

Jae MacKay wrote:and most of the people on this forum site are people who work for a Akai who will miss lead you and provide misinformation.

There's no one on this site who works for Akai, this is an end user forum and if you'd have spent two seconds reading the 5000 sub forum you would realise that most of the posts here are slating the thing.

Not the best way to introduce yourself to the forum

....if the 5000 would be as good as it looks like, they still could sell this machine....

but since akai is more into thowing out new gadgets every year instead of pushing their existing stuff to the limit, this company is just down the drain...

if you you look at akais namm 2015 catalogue, you know this is all nowhere near to innovation or quality....

and by now you can read it in his face, too....this akai presenter guy knows, he was telling too much lies and empty promises the last few years again and again....and all that is left to present this year is this cat and timbre thing....
which are nothing but pimped up copies of their last years piece of shit howler hardware of the year...

the 5000 was a game changer.....it was the first time they dared to sell a fancy box, all filled up with unfinished business only.......

and that became tradition at nukai....
i still feel for all these poor ren users.....

nevertheless.....a 1000 or 2500 with jjos, which makes THE difference, is always a good choice and a serious stage and studio tool....just don't use the former akai os and you'll be fine....
and well, yeah, there is no such thing for the 5000....

if you're really into this....get a 4 or 3 or 2 thousand.....

but honestly....even if your progression in sound manipulation modularion music theory is increasing, you still leave the impression, you got no clue what a mpc can do....
and what it can't do....

Sorry...i am not helping out on this one as i seem to be working for Akai over here.....

I have read a lot of posts, yes. I can see your ego overrules your ability to help and be friendly.
The 4k does not have a va synth. Is there another manufacturer that makes a "all in one" like the 5k ?

How much do they pay you ?

mcroepster wrote:

Jae MacKay wrote: and most of the people on this forum site are people who work for a Akai who will miss lead you and provide misinformation.

Talking about misinformation.!

peace

Why don't you try out the mv 8800 from roland. It does have a va synth, but more than that, it has very good modulation capabilities via the keygroup programs. It has an extremely stable os. The sampler portion is derived from the s7xx series, which had a good reputation. The chops on the mv are easier to follow than the 5000, the chop process on the 1000jjos are smooth and silky, if only the developers had of copied the jjos for the 5000.....here l go again! Seriously if you want all in one the Mv is for you, as it has proper audio tracks, and more complex synth architecture