By DJ Hellfire
Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:24 am
x-straktor wrote:DJ Hellfire wrote:x-straktor wrote:I hear what you're saying, respect your comments, but you might be just proving my point.
1. I'm still not backing down on what I said earlier. I feel that the MPC should be set to destructive chopping. When you enter the sample widow, the chop pad should toggle between destructive and non-destructive (old mode to new mode). With the new mode you can press shift to have all the necessary extra features at your disposal. I'm sorry but sometimes I spend all day chopping drums. Having to hit the shift button, then hit the covert button to assign destructive chops to pads has added a lot of time. Seconds add up. I want to focus on the blue LED screen. Making sure my pinky hits that shift button or even using two fingers from two different hands slows down momentum dramatically with the increase coordination and eye wondering necessary.
That is the main reason why I'm going back to update 1.7. You can't compromise the speed of the MPC. All the extra features are nice, but they don't increase speed. You can argue that Slice+ increases speed, but I can use my mouse and click the slice around the same area when the sample is playing. People want more features? Sure, but not if it tampers with speed. Most of the time less features is better because you're forced to manipulate what you have to achieve the desired effect. Madlib can make an album in a day with a simple beat machine. I bet he won't be able to do that hitting shift buttons and stuff? I don't think so. All Akai really had to do was make a digital version of any of their MPCs and just have the ability to load samples faster and maybe the use of VSTs. That's it.
2. I said the MPC is about speed, and the speed has been compromised. Pad assign is useless for non-destructive chopping. If I want to changes sounds on a pad and then go back to my original sound that was on that pad, I can either scroll ti'll I see the name of the sound in pad assign mode, or drag and drop the sound onto the pad, when destructively chopped.
With non-destructive sampling, you're saying to exit out of pad assign mode, then hit the sample button, then hit the chop button, then find your sample, then hold the shift button before you press the covert button, then hit the pad where you want your sample to be, then press the done button. Wow! What a speed saving process! Plus you forgot to mention how do you know what is the slice that was originally used. When I chop drums, I use threshold chop, so the drums are then chopped into 40 different slices. How do I know which snare drum I used originally to put back on the pad in my program? Non-destructive chop doesn't assign originally names to each sample on a pad. Pad assign and the mere auditioning of sounds that have been chopped from other projects and programs within a project can not be accomplished with non-destructive chopping. I'll non-destructively chop a guitar sound from time to time, sure, not drums. If I'm using the MPC wrong, then let me know. Show me.
1. I don't know bro. You can't really compare using Slice+ to using the mouse, especially at faster tempo samples. Doing it by mouse is not only uninspiring, but it's less accurate when trying to keep up with the moving play head. Slice+ saves you so much more time than chopping in 1.7. Even if you're chopping 10 drum breaks in a session, pressing shift adding up to 10 seconds lost is a big deal to you, even when you just possibly save 30 minutes to and hour chopping the samples??? All of your extra speed is in the chopping. The little time you lose by having to move your pinky and eyeballs a few inches is peanuts.
There ain't too many people on earth that can make an album worth listening to in just one day.
2. Again, I don't think you understand the functionality of the feature. For one, you don't have to use NDC. You can just use destructive chopping if you want. That hasn't changed. Don't understand why you're complaining about that. But if you did want to use NDC and go back to a chop, you don't have to do the 20 extra steps you just mentioned. It's only 1 extra step from the previous version and it's all done in program edit. If you want to go back to an NDC sample, just go to program edit and assign the sample. You have to do this for destructive samples as well. The ONLY extra step is assigning the desired slice to the pad. That's it. You do not have to rechop or reconvert the slices.
How do you know which snare goes back to the pad you want to reassign? Well, the slices go in order. So hit the pad before it, take note of the slice number, then go back to the pad you're assigning and set it to the next slice in the sequence. It's very simple.
You may have a point. I tell one thing. I can't believe the dude from the videos is on this forum. I will try to dig in into all the new features and just get busy with this thing.
It may be a small learning curve for people used to older mpcs but once you learn the benefits, your workflow will definitely improve. If it doesn't you can still use it the old way for the most part.