Pattern time signature--4/4 only?

I'm running OS-XL on a 2500. I have a couple midi tracks in 5/4 that I want to be able to bring in over the regular 4/4 beat. When I register the track as a pattern, it cuts off everything after 4/4 (or multiples of 4/4--so if the track has three bars i.e. 15 quarter beats & I set the pattern bars to "3", it will only include three 4/4 bars i.e. 12 quarters). With 3/4 or 2/4 tracks, I get 4 measures with empty space.

Am I missing something? Are only 4/4 patterns allowed in XL? Can't find anything addressing this one way or the other in the manual.

you need 4loops of 3/4 bars to make 3loops of 4/4
and 20loops 5/4 to make 25loops at 4/4
and that's minimum for those signatures to have full loop over 4/4 without drops or cuts,
it won't stretch anthing if that's what you mean

That's not what he means... He is talking about 'patterns' as in MODE + f1. And to OP's question, no, unfortunately it cant be done. But do make a feature request in the 'report a bug' section - I would love to be able to do this too!

Balls wrote:That's not what he means... He is talking about 'patterns' as in MODE + f1. And to OP's question, no, unfortunately it cant be done. But do make a feature request in the 'report a bug' section - I would love to be able to do this too!

I mean he needs to transfer his 3/4 or whatever signature (if possible) to 4/4 first before going to pattern mode and because of that they got to have some minimum lenght to be divided by 4 base.

So you got your 3/4 beat you want to make a pattern of it, they are only 4/4.. ok

for fast work you first make a copy of 3/4 seqence, delete all it's bars to just 1. Then you change a signature of this new sequence to 4/4 and you need to manually copy the tracks.. 1 by 1 from 3/4 to 4/4 seq.. (programs are already set on tracks- that's why you use copy seqence first)

you need have minimum 4 bars of 3/4 in a first place to make full 3 bars of 4/4,
then you can go pattern

Bugfix wrote:

Balls wrote:That's not what he means... He is talking about 'patterns' as in MODE + f1. And to OP's question, no, unfortunately it cant be done. But do make a feature request in the 'report a bug' section - I would love to be able to do this too!

I mean he needs to transfer his 3/4 or whatever signature (if possible) to 4/4 first before going to pattern mode and because of that they got to have some minimum lenght to be divided by 4 base.

So you got your 3/4 beat you want to make a pattern of it, they are only 4/4.. ok

for fast work you first make a copy of 3/4 seqence, delete all it's bars to just 1. Then you change a signature of this new sequence to 4/4 and you need to manually copy the tracks.. 1 by 1 from 3/4 to 4/4 seq.. (programs are already set on tracks- that's why you use copy seqence first)

you need have minimum 4 bars of 3/4 in a first place to make full 3 bars of 4/4,
then you can go pattern

Ah, thanks for clarifying that - although it is a little bit cumbersome, it is actually a decent workaround !

One thing though, if I am not mistaken, I think you need 3 bars of 4/4 time sig (not 4) to make 3/4's loop correctly. 5 bars of 4/4 to make 5/4 loop correctly. 7 bars of 4/4 to make 7/4's loop correctly, and so forth. Right?

Now I think if the base is 4 you only need 4 bars to make it loopable. Think about it.
4 bars of 2/4 will give 2 bars of 4/4
4 bars of 3/4 will give 3 bars of 4/4
4bars of 5/4 will give 5 bars of 4/4
4bars of 7/4 will give 7 bars of 4/4
4bars of 8/4 wil give 8 bars see?

[quote="Bugfix"]Now I think if the base is 4 you only need 4 bars to make it loopable. Think about it.
4 bars of 2/4 will give 2 bars of 4/4
4 bars of 3/4 will give 3 bars of 4/4
4bars of 5/4 will give 5 bars of 4/4
4bars of 7/4 will give 7 bars of 4/4
4bars of 8/4 wil give 8 bars see?[/quote]

now you're turning the whole thing around, otherwise, I think we agree.
You just confused me in your first answer, when you were talking about 'loops'. Again, let's turn it around to make it simple: let's talk about how many bats of 4/4 you need in all cases, as it is the time signature you will have to use when dealing with patterns. So, you need 3 bars of 4/4 to do a 3/4 pattern 5 bars of 4/4 to do a 5/4 pattern, 7 bars of 4/4 to do a 7/4 pattern, and so on...

It is the same as you say, just in reverse for (my) convenience sake.

yeah it's the same, just other way