Bug reports & end-user support for Akai's MPC Software 'controllers' including the new MPC Studio 2, the MPC Touch, MPC Renaissance & original MPC Studio and MPC StudioB lack.
By sbtst6 Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:44 pm
monsoonmoon22 wrote:I'm interested to see how this works with 3rd party plugins.. I wonder if the plugin GUI will be visible on the touch screen??


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Wonder if there is any development connection to the Akai Advance Series/VIP software?
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By GNRFAMZT Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:59 pm
so how to you save and load things? in order to do so, you ALWAYS have to use it in conjunction with a laptop or desktop, right? for comparison: the electribe 2 sampler has a sd card slot, internal ram.. and it´s cheaper. nukai screwed up again imo. the damned icons on the display are way too small for my stubby fingers.
By Eyalc Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:01 pm
A lot of Akai responses on Facebook stating "This is just the beginning", mostly in response to "standalone" comments. So seems more is definitely on the way. When is the question. Just :hmmm: that they would willingly cause backlash like they're getting. Not sure I would wait long on that next announcement. LOL
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By Fanu Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:13 pm
pspsounds wrote:More info. http://blog.zzounds.com/2015/10/07/inte ... mpc-touch/


Pete: This release will be called version 1.9 because of this entirely new way of interacting with the MPC. There’s a whole load of major features added that the Touch UI uses — but that existing customers [running MPC Renaissance or MPC Studio] can use too: independent track lengths, individual insert bypass, massively improved master mixer section, pad color control, continuous loop sample addition — a whole load of stuff.

Every time a standalone thing is mentioned, I can't help thinking of one thing:
If they did it, I suppose a lot of users would want it to run today's plugins; I could imagine the complaints if it only used Akai's own proprietary plug-ins / no 3rd party stuff...after all, it's 2015.
But if you create a device that's independent of your computer AND which uses modern 3rd party plug-ins...that technology would be old in a few years (CPU-wise etc) as you couldn't update its CPU etc yet all the plugins get more demanding etc. So in a way I understand why they don't want to create a standalone anymore.

So even thinking of creating a standalone device catering to most ppl's needs must be a challenge; by making it dependent of your computer makes sure it doesn't get old _that_ fast.
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By distortedtekno Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:22 pm
Fanu wrote:
pspsounds wrote:More info. http://blog.zzounds.com/2015/10/07/inte ... mpc-touch/


Pete: This release will be called version 1.9 because of this entirely new way of interacting with the MPC. There’s a whole load of major features added that the Touch UI uses — but that existing customers [running MPC Renaissance or MPC Studio] can use too: independent track lengths, individual insert bypass, massively improved master mixer section, pad color control, continuous loop sample addition — a whole load of stuff.

Every time a standalone thing is mentioned, I can't help thinking of one thing:
If they did it, I suppose a lot of users would want it to run today's plugins; I could imagine the complaints if it only used Akai's own proprietary plug-ins / no 3rd party stuff...after all, it's 2015.
But if you create a device that's independent of your computer AND which uses modern 3rd party plug-ins...that technology would be old in a few years (CPU-wise etc) as you couldn't update its CPU etc yet all the plugins get more demanding etc. So in a way I understand why they don't want to create a standalone anymore.

So even thinking of creating a standalone device catering to most ppl's needs must be a challenge; by making it dependent of your computer makes sure it doesn't get old _that_ fast.


I totally get that. I just wish they'd stop calling it an "instrument". They kept trying to pound that into our heads with that interview. That's that thing that irks me about Akai. You can't polish a turd and expect people to believe it's not a turd. :Sigh:
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By Coz Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:44 pm
Fanu wrote:Every time a standalone thing is mentioned, I can't help thinking of one thing:
If they did it, I suppose a lot of users would want it to run today's plugins; I could imagine the complaints if it only used Akai's own proprietary plug-ins / no 3rd party stuff...after all, it's 2015.



They wouldn't get any complaints from me whatsoever if they omitted the use of plugins. I don't see the fascination of wanting plugins on a relatively low power device... you use a decent reverb with one or two instances and you've hammered a load of your available CPU. I don't see the point. Imagine installing Komplete Ultimate on it? Omnisphere? No thanks.

I'd rather they beefed up their own effects and instruments and maybe licensed some really high quality algorithms from 3rd parties. Everything should feel self-contained and purpose built for the machine, and not just ported from a VST. We'll see anyway... 8)
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By GNRFAMZT Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:49 pm
Fanu wrote:even thinking of creating a standalone device catering to most ppl's needs must be a challenge

wrong, quite the opposite. the current mpc software is still unstable as hell on some computers. they probably never solve the issues, stabiliy-wise. with a windows embedded standalone pc/mpc everything would be fine. to have the same specs (e.g. intel i5 chip) in each and every customer´s mpc would make debugging for pete a breeze. a dream constellation for every maintenance programmer.
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By switch18 Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:59 pm
I've purchased all their "dongles" ...Ren, MPCStudio, etc and even the iMPC & they're great for a little while, but over time having the Macbook/iPad handcuff sucks. The product does look nice though. I've gone back to my MPC4K & MPC3K and am having a lot more fun. Like some of the others have said, we are not the target audience!
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By distortedtekno Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:22 pm
switch18 wrote:I've purchased all their "dongles" ...Ren, MPCStudio, etc and even the iMPC & they're great for a little while, but over time having the Macbook/iPad handcuff sucks. The product does look nice though. I've gone back to my MPC4K & MPC3K and am having a lot more fun. Like some of the others have said, we are not the target audience!

Yeah that's all they are... Controllers with dongles in them. As long as that's the current format, it's no game changer to me, as they want everyone to believe. One of the major reasons many of us own MPCs is to not have to rely on a computer. Akai really forgot all about that. Most of their market since the '90s and still a huge percentage to this day still don't want to deal with a computer at all. Then they also forget that a good percentage of people wanting to buy any of the current models also may need to upgrade their computers. That's another $1000 at the least for a decent PC and even more for a Mac user to lay out. In the end, you'll spend $2000-$3000 at the very least. I'd be happier spending $2000 or more on a standalone flagship MPC than I would on a computer and a controller. I got enough computers lying around as it is.
By Thomaz Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:35 pm
distortedtekno wrote:
switch18 wrote:I've purchased all their "dongles" ...Ren, MPCStudio, etc and even the iMPC & they're great for a little while, but over time having the Macbook/iPad handcuff sucks. The product does look nice though. I've gone back to my MPC4K & MPC3K and am having a lot more fun. Like some of the others have said, we are not the target audience!

Yeah that's all they are... Controllers with dongles in them. As long as that's the current format, it's no game changer to me, as they want everyone to believe. One of the major reasons many of us own MPCs is to not have to rely on a computer. Akai really forgot all about that. Most of their market since the '90s and still a huge percentage to this day still don't want to deal with a computer at all. Then they also forget that a good percentage of people wanting to buy any of the current models also may need to upgrade their computers. That's another $1000 at the least for a decent PC and even more for a Mac user to lay out. In the end, you'll spend $2000-$3000 at the very least. I'd be happier spending $2000 or more on a standalone flagship MPC than I would on a computer and a controller. I got enough computers lying around as it is.


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By pspsounds Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:41 pm
Is the touch running Windows 10? If not maybe there is hope that another unit will be announced since we know Akai is working on something with Windows 10 embedded. But if this is it I would say it's not a bad product, just not what us long time MPC users were expecting. Glad I still have my 2500 JJOS.