Official: 'Akai MPC Touch' - The New MPC

MPC-Tutor wrote:

distortedtekno wrote:[
I don't believe that would be an accurate comparison. Akai are designing MPCs while you're writing tutorials. While they're related, it's still 2 different markets. Not everyone who buys a new MPC would be in the market for a tutorial, especially for experienced users. I'm not sure where mpc-stuff would be relevant either since they're one of many retailers.

MPC Stuff is relevant as he has previously developed products based on forum/social media requests and unfortunately they just didn't sell at all. I too have developed products based on forum requests and they didn't sell (not even to the people who specifically requested them).

It's not the type of product that is of relevance to my point. The point was that if a few people on Facebook post that they would buy a standalone MPC, that's not really enough data to draw the conclusion that a viable market of people would actually buy a standalone MPC if Akai developed one. It doesn't matter if my market is different to Akai's, the issue is still the same, people like to talk the talk about this and that but it doesn't really mean you can scale that up to make assumptions about the other 99.9% of the market.

I'm not saying that a viable standalone market doesn't exist, just that it's easy to assume far too much from a few forum/social media comments.

Yeah that makes sense to me now. I guess I've been under the assumption that the market would be growing with the newer generation. But there are a lot of factors that make the MPC more of a niche market than it already is. I'm sure there's a lot of people that aren't interested in 16 pads as they are with x0x style step sequencers. So that's anoher thing I overlooked as well, come to think of it.

I am thinking no pads or just one pad is the future for MPCs.

The MPC Touch is just beginning to show us the way...

godlike wrote:I am thinking no pads or just one pad is the future for MPCs.

It's already been done.

Coz, I like your design idea. But where are your record and transport buttons?

I was thinking more like the MPC Touch with a screen, just one large pad instead of 16 small pads. This would be the most portable MPC developed.

I think it's safe to say that everybody here is getting really excited about getting their hands on an MPC Touch.

lolz.

stale bread wrote:

jpeg wrote:

Eyalc wrote:
+1...

I just don't understand why folks are talking about standalone isn't necessary, or it's antiquated, or people need to get modern. It's a preference people. Arguing against standalone is annoying. If they release a standalone, there are going to be way more people invest in this thing, which is going to generate more revenue, which is going to have a positive effect on the continuity of this thing. Just take a look at their facebook page... people are ready to pay for a standalone. Because of that, I can't understand why people wouldn't want a standalone version to be released, even if they themselves want to stick with the controller. It's arguing for the sake of arguing, and senseless posturing that because they want a controller they are more modern than someone else , because in the end, the economics of a standalone is going to benefit them as well.

think peeps say the cost is prohibitive and that without the power of the PC it would not have the same level of vst capability.

but if they can maintain the ren feature-set in standalone (and not have it be 2G's) then peeps will be up for it.

but those saying that the mpc500 is better than the ren or the studio is silly because the 500 cannot do many of the things that the studio or the ren can do.

the fact that the 500 is standalone does not trump all of those features; also most users will be using the mpc in a studio as opposed to at the beach or in a park, so the stand alone gripes are immaterial whining for no reason.

the distinction of a controller ala mpc ren vs a so called real mpc ala 2500 is a false distinction; caused by an old skool mentality, and an inability to change with the times with regards to music tech.

but no one is against standalone but its is not the be all end all, also the point about updating the the ren software of course they are cos the ren is only 3 years old.

while the 4000 is about 10 years old so why would they continue to update that? like Microsoft dont still support win xp or vista; so its logical to not expect the 5k not to be update after a period of time.

I don't know how to explain this any clearer but you are getting 'stand alone' confused with 'portable' . thats why this comment "the fact that the 500 is standalone does not trump all of those features; also most users will be using the mpc in a studio as opposed to at the beach or in a park, so the stand alone gripes are immaterial whining for no reason" doesn't make a whole lotta sense.
the argument for a stand alone mpc has nothing to do with whether you can go to a park and play it, actually in a situation like that it would be better to use a laptop and controller or something tiny like an mpc 500. all i can say is that 'stand alone' does not equate to 'portable' , no one is talking about portability, we are talking about instrumentality.

ok I get what u said but please clarify what difference is when a person works on the Ren using the ren LCD screen vs working on any standalone mpc using the lcd screen?

as it seems apart from the initial setup process of the ren; the actual working experience is the same; leading me to the conclusion that the benefits of standalone are actually in ur head.

http://www.akaipro.com/product/mpc-touc ... quirements
Site updated today. Requirements says Windows 8, 10.

Does it work with Windows 7???

In my opinion, the only company who really gets it, is Roland. They integrate standalone, with controller options and plugins and plug-outs. Even with portability.

I'm loving that JP-08.

Nubian Mindz wrote:http://www.akaipro.com/product/mpc-touch#system_requirements
Site updated today. Requirements says Windows 8, 10.

Does it work with Windows 7???

Going to have to freeze one of my studio pcs in time and build another one.

Yeah I'm all about that new Roland gear. Can't wait to get my hands on that JP-08. I got my SP-404SX for drums, and a friend of mine has the TB-3. We're working on a live setup, and all that gear really does it for us.

Nubian Mindz wrote:Does it work with Windows 7???

More to the point, are they going to drop Windows 7 support for the Ren??

Coz wrote:

Nubian Mindz wrote:Does it work with Windows 7???

More to the point, are they going to drop Windows 7 support for the Ren??

That would be fine if they have the Ren super tight and playing nice with Windows 10, which is a free upgrade for Win 7/8 users btw. My studio desktop PC runs Win 7 and my laptop for playing live uses Win 8.1. I'd happily upgrade to 10 once I know it's as tight as Win 7.

Posted this in another thread, probably incorrectly but one solution for a true 'standalone' MPC would be to have an MPC with no display (or a trad small display) but with some built in CPU power/audio interface/flash storage, and have it synced to controller software operating on an iPad - in much the same was as Logic Pro can use an iPad as an aux controller (for some features). I'm thinking something that looks a bit like the MPC studio really (slightly fatter probably due to the audio interface).

The DAW aspects of the controller software can utilise the MPC CPU for processing, with work-in-progress projects utilising flash storage, with projects either saved to the cloud or to an onboard SD card (for transfer to a computer for mastering).

The drive to install a controller screen on the MPC itself seems like a waste of real-estate that could be used for additional hardware controls, when most people have (or can easily get) a tablet to use as the screen. It's not therefore completely 'standalone' but in practice, it is ultimately portable, the screen can be positioned to the producers liking easily and could open all sorts of future possibilities.

I would love a situation where I could use the computer to gather all the samples and load kits etc into a project, drop onto an SD card into my mythical MPC and then take it, along with an iPad in a carrying case to wherever else I feel inspiration, whip out the MPC/iPad and continue working on the beat until I'm happy, then save the stems/wav to the SD card to master when I'm back near the computer.

I'm sure theres a million people who will say 'that would be rubbish', but it would certainly work for me

Mink wrote:Posted this in another thread, probably incorrectly but one solution for a true 'standalone' MPC would be to have an MPC with no display (or a trad small display) but with some built in CPU power/audio interface/flash storage, and have it synced to controller software operating on an iPad - in much the same was as Logic Pro can use an iPad as an aux controller (for some features). I'm thinking something that looks a bit like the MPC studio really (slightly fatter probably due to the audio interface).

The DAW aspects of the controller software can utilise the MPC CPU for processing, with work-in-progress projects utilising flash storage, with projects either saved to the cloud or to an onboard SD card (for transfer to a computer for mastering).

The drive to install a controller screen on the MPC itself seems like a waste of real-estate that could be used for additional hardware controls, when most people have (or can easily get) a tablet to use as the screen. It's not therefore completely 'standalone' but in practice, it is ultimately portable, the screen can be positioned to the producers liking easily and could open all sorts of future possibilities.

I would love a situation where I could use the computer to gather all the samples and load kits etc into a project, drop onto an SD card into my mythical MPC and then take it, along with an iPad in a carrying case to wherever else I feel inspiration, whip out the MPC/iPad and continue working on the beat until I'm happy, then save the stems/wav to the SD card to master when I'm back near the computer.

I'm sure theres a million people who will say 'that would be rubbish', but it would certainly work for me

You mean something like this? But with an MPC configuration, instead of a keyboard?