Bug reports & end-user support for Akai's MPC Software 'controllers' including the new MPC Studio 2, the MPC Touch, MPC Renaissance & original MPC Studio and MPC StudioB lack.
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By mr_debauch Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:56 am
ha... so now the most recent good software affiliate akai had is gone too.. lol. how many low ball offers to buy ableton do you think jack made before they told him to **** off?
By Nubian Mindz Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:47 am
mr_debauch wrote:ha... so how many low ball offers to buy ableton do you think jack made before they told him to **** off?


Ableton doesn't seem to be run by guys who would sell out to Jack or others of his ilk.
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By distortedtekno Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:43 pm
I'm glad Ableton decided to go in this direction. They don't need Akai dragging them down. The Push 2 will work with 3rd party plugins now, according to the article. I wasn't aware that it was an issue with the first Push. But it's no surprise considering Akai's other controllers. I'm gonna start paying more attention to Ableton now that they got rid of Akai and are making a lot of other moves, especially with Link, which can be used with iOS apps and not just Ableton. It's clear that Ableton is making sure to have a completely open system with their software and hardware. Other companies that don't will ultimately suffer. Roger Linn must be laughing his balls off right now.
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By distortedtekno Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:28 pm
I've noticed over the years how Akai and Propellerhead would rather keep a closed system with their software. No Rewire in MPC software, and no VST support in Reason. They don't want us using competitors products with theirs. After 3 years of Rack Extensions for Reason, most of the major companies like Korg no longer develop Rack Extensions. But they support Ableton with Gadget being able to export projects flawlessly. I'll never see that happen in Reason. I'm tired of playing the waiting game with Reason. I can list a bunch of things I'm not happy with. But it's just a waste of time. Out of all the point releases since 8.0, I still never had any reason to upgrade. They're a "me too" company that never quite catch up anyway, and the same goes for Akai trying to compete with NI, yet leaving out so many essential features. I'm completely sold on Ableton now. Between that and my iPad, they offer more than everything I've seen so far.
By kaydigi Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:37 pm
distortedtekno wrote:I've noticed over the years how Akai and Propellerhead would rather keep a closed system with their software. No Rewire in MPC software, and no VST support in Reason. They don't want us using competitors products with theirs. After 3 years of Rack Extensions for Reason, most of the major companies like Korg no longer develop Rack Extensions. But they support Ableton with Gadget being able to export projects flawlessly. I'll never see that happen in Reason. I'm tired of playing the waiting game with Reason. I can list a bunch of things I'm not happy with. But it's just a waste of time. Out of all the point releases since 8.0, I still never had any reason to upgrade. They're a "me too" company that never quite catch up anyway, and the same goes for Akai trying to compete with NI, yet leaving out so many essential features. I'm completely sold on Ableton now. Between that and my iPad, they offer more than everything I've seen so far.



Don't forget the biggest slap in the face of turning off your forums!!!
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By distortedtekno Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:16 pm
kaydigi wrote:
distortedtekno wrote:I've noticed over the years how Akai and Propellerhead would rather keep a closed system with their software. No Rewire in MPC software, and no VST support in Reason. They don't want us using competitors products with theirs. After 3 years of Rack Extensions for Reason, most of the major companies like Korg no longer develop Rack Extensions. But they support Ableton with Gadget being able to export projects flawlessly. I'll never see that happen in Reason. I'm tired of playing the waiting game with Reason. I can list a bunch of things I'm not happy with. But it's just a waste of time. Out of all the point releases since 8.0, I still never had any reason to upgrade. They're a "me too" company that never quite catch up anyway, and the same goes for Akai trying to compete with NI, yet leaving out so many essential features. I'm completely sold on Ableton now. Between that and my iPad, they offer more than everything I've seen so far.



Don't forget the biggest slap in the face of turning off your forums!!!

That was the dumbest thing Propellerhead ever decided to do, aside of releasing Reason 8. Then they continue sending spam emails about that half-assed online collab called Discover, which is useless without stems. Who the **** wants to remix a 2-track recording, aside from a handfull of beginners using Figure and Take? Those apps suck. Yet they pour all their resources into it and not other apps they could be developing. They also keep urging us to join them on Farcebook and Twatter since they killed the forums. Their forums sucked anyway... Bunch of **** Nazis. :fku:
By JVC Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:09 pm
It is not surprising that Akai and Ableton ended their partnership. Akai is now selling their DAW products, so now they are directly competing each other. So I don’t assume that “Akai dropped by Ableton” was the exactly what happened.
Seeing that Ableton Live has been hugely successful, I can see that Ableton wanted to create hardware interface without third party.
I am no software guy (I just don’t know how to use them), but the Push 2 interface looks great. I see that they know exactly what they are doing. I hate to state this, but MPC Touch now looks like Ableton Push 2’s prototype.
By sbtst6 Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:57 am
This Push 2 seems to be everything i wanted in a In the box situation. Been using Live for a while for recording. Playing with the new simpler is ridiculous! :worthy:
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By rookie Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:49 am
I agree with distort on propellead, they are to closed circuit for me. they would have exploded with vst. To me fruity loops and ableton give the most bang for the buck. I decided to go with BitWig, and a launchpad pro. I love the layout and how it makes certain things easy. Live has too much of a learning curve for me right and BitWig is made by former ableton and logic programmers so it in good hands.
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By konc3pt Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:12 am
i been using ableton since version 6, it's the mpc of software. if they only came out with mpc style controller, push's pads looks small :/

i agree with other comments, this is likely do to conflict of interest
By Nubian Mindz Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:47 am
rookie wrote:I decided to go with BitWig, and a launchpad pro. I love the layout and how it makes certain things easy. .


Really interested to see how this works out for you and other users.

2 questions:

1) Do you have a Ren?
2) Does it play nice with Bitwig?