Bug reports & end-user support for Akai's MPC Software 'controllers' including the new MPC Studio 2, the MPC Touch, MPC Renaissance & original MPC Studio and MPC StudioB lack.
By joooe Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:56 am
I'm exploring the Arturia Prophet 5 V2 plugin (previously pro 53 vst plugin from NI).
I watched a video on youtube of a guy making a track with the original instrument, prophet 5, and I'm trying to recreate his sounds in the plugin. Here's the video [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IhC4ekLenc]

Some sounds might feel a bit corny but I'm doing that for practice purposes and to find what kind of effects best suit the sounds. I'm trying to get that first electric piano sound ( number 33 on the prophet programmer) in the video but mine doesn't sound as full and smooth as his. I assume he didn't tweak much apart from the cut off filter on the prophet 5. He's using an external chorus, delay and reverb as effects. I'm using the internal effects on the mpc but can't get really satisfied with my results.

Can anybody give me some tips on which effect I should use, if I'm wasting my time with the MPC internal effect or anything else? Thanks in advance.
By vdd Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:30 pm
Hi,
He uses an original P5, which means, that his sound will be different, even if you have an original P5, too.
The tolerances of the analog cirquits are one key to that unique analog sound. With a VST, you will get 80-90%. The last 10% makes the full and smooth sound... If you sample an analog synth multiple times and you check the waveforms you will see the differences. Every note is unique. The VST from Arturia are really great, but not the original one.
The internal effects of the MPC are -- special. You will get nice results, but compared to hq plug-ins, the is a huge difference. The advantage from my point of view is the low cpu usage. The guy in the video used nice gear from TC. No high-end, but more bang than the bundled plug-ins, for sure.

I would try to sample the output from the VST, than using a noise LFO to frequently change the pitch of the sample by a small (!!!) amount. This will give you a virtualized VCO-drift.
A short delay (75-100ms) will warm it up. Put the large reverb with a more dry level to it and it should be near by the result. Last effect: A LP-filter, to cut everything up to 4kHz (or your own taste). This will reduce the brilliance you do not want.

Or - spend some grands for the last percents.
By joooe Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:41 pm
vdd wrote:Hi,
He uses an original P5, which means, that his sound will be different, even if you have an original P5, too.
The tolerances of the analog cirquits are one key to that unique analog sound. With a VST, you will get 80-90%. The last 10% makes the full and smooth sound... If you sample an analog synth multiple times and you check the waveforms you will see the differences. Every note is unique. The VST from Arturia are really great, but not the original one.
The internal effects of the MPC are -- special. You will get nice results, but compared to hq plug-ins, the is a huge difference. The advantage from my point of view is the low cpu usage. The guy in the video used nice gear from TC. No high-end, but more bang than the bundled plug-ins, for sure.

I would try to sample the output from the VST, than using a noise LFO to frequently change the pitch of the sample by a small (!!!) amount. This will give you a virtualized VCO-drift.
A short delay (75-100ms) will warm it up. Put the large reverb with a more dry level to it and it should be near by the result. Last effect: A LP-filter, to cut everything up to 4kHz (or your own taste). This will reduce the brilliance you do not want.

Or - spend some grands for the last percents.


Thank you. It's very helpful! I will try using your tips and see how that goes. It is true that not having the original synth, only internal mpc effects can make all the difference I suppose. I was amazed by the difference in sound in the video and the same preset in the vst, the vst sounds like a toy but with your tips I might get closer ..