Support and discussion for all of Akai’s modern standalone MPCs including the MPC X / X SE, MPC Live 1, 2 & 3, MPC One / One+, MPC Key 37/61.
By jpeg Mon Oct 31, 2016 4:16 pm
greavous420 wrote:
Its the post truth era as I keep seeing the media referring to it. You can make up anything you want.

Literally doesn't even mean literally anymore these days.


this statement seemed to have no relevance to what was being said
By jpeg Mon Oct 31, 2016 4:18 pm
kaydigi wrote:
jpeg wrote:if there is no announcement but the end of next week then we gotta wait till the end of jan.


Crazy that it may be from winter Namm 16 to winter namm 17 before we receive any information.


yup it is messed up in todays time of open communication channels these companies choose not to communicate
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By Fanu Mon Oct 31, 2016 4:34 pm
jpeg wrote:
kaydigi wrote:
jpeg wrote:if there is no announcement but the end of next week then we gotta wait till the end of jan.


Crazy that it may be from winter Namm 16 to winter namm 17 before we receive any information.


yup it is messed up in todays time of open communication channels these companies choose not to communicate


I get it to an extent: it's super hard to give out any good estimations in the software world, as coding may take unexpected turns. I've seen companies such as Slate Digital apologising a lot for not meeting promised deadlines, and peeps have been busting their balls.

I understand you don't want to be updating peeps all the time, but some companies that people like a lot (Slate, SKnote, Melda, etc.) seem to be doing that on Gearslutz and other forums, and it's good practice and makes you feel that the company is excited about the product and on the same wavelength with its users. That way people also forgive you for taking your time with the product.

A complete silence this long after announcing a product isn't the way to go these days, imho, as it creates a bit of a cocky impression when there's people roasting you on social media all the time and you ain't saying anything. I'm sure there's some peeps already thinking it may not be coming at all and there's probably some dudes who've decided "Phuk it" and bought a Push 2 instead. Which is good.
Even a public post about product every 3 months in the lines of "We're working on it!" + a pic or something would give the fanbase some faith and keep them thirsty in a good way.
By jpeg Mon Oct 31, 2016 4:42 pm
Fanu wrote:I get it to an extent: it's super hard to give out any good estimations in the software world, as coding may take unexpected turns. I've seen companies such as Slate Digital apologising a lot for not meeting promised deadlines, and peeps have been busting their balls.

I understand you don't want to be updating peeps all the time, but some companies that people like a lot (Slate, SKnote, Melda, etc.) seem to be doing that on Gearslutz and other forums, and it's good practice and makes you feel that the company is excited about the product and on the same wavelength with its users. That way people also forgive you for taking your time with the product.

A complete silence this long after announcing a product isn't the way to go these days, imho, as it creates a bit of a cocky impression when there's people roasting you on social media all the time and you ain't saying anything. I'm sure there's some peeps already thinking it may not be coming at all and there's probably some dudes who've decided "Phuk it" and bought a Push 2 instead. Which is good.
Even a public post about product every 3 months in the lines of "We're working on it!" + a pic or something would give the fanbase some faith and keep them thirsty in a good way.


I would agree with this but again the development must be project managed so I feel they should know at a certain point in time that they have missed the deadline for 2016; so they should just come out an say we now aiming for 2017.
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By Fanu Mon Oct 31, 2016 4:57 pm
jpeg wrote:
Fanu wrote:I get it to an extent: it's super hard to give out any good estimations in the software world, as coding may take unexpected turns. I've seen companies such as Slate Digital apologising a lot for not meeting promised deadlines, and peeps have been busting their balls.

I understand you don't want to be updating peeps all the time, but some companies that people like a lot (Slate, SKnote, Melda, etc.) seem to be doing that on Gearslutz and other forums, and it's good practice and makes you feel that the company is excited about the product and on the same wavelength with its users. That way people also forgive you for taking your time with the product.

A complete silence this long after announcing a product isn't the way to go these days, imho, as it creates a bit of a cocky impression when there's people roasting you on social media all the time and you ain't saying anything. I'm sure there's some peeps already thinking it may not be coming at all and there's probably some dudes who've decided "Phuk it" and bought a Push 2 instead. Which is good.
Even a public post about product every 3 months in the lines of "We're working on it!" + a pic or something would give the fanbase some faith and keep them thirsty in a good way.


I would agree with this but again the development must be project managed so I feel they should know at a certain point in time that they have missed the deadline for 2016; so they should just come out an say we now aiming for 2017.


Yeah exactly: keep people in the loop and be honest, and they'll roast you less and have a more positive impression about you. I think when Slate started being way more honest and admitting that some things were not happening as planned and promised before, people started acting way more forgiving towards him.
By greavous420 Mon Oct 31, 2016 5:56 pm
jpeg wrote:
greavous420 wrote:
Its the post truth era as I keep seeing the media referring to it. You can make up anything you want.

Literally doesn't even mean literally anymore these days.


this statement seemed to have no relevance to what was being said


What I was implying(admittedly poorly) is that companies/politicians etc can say what they want because they aren't held accountable for what they say anymore.
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By Fanu Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:56 pm
jpeg wrote:
kaydigi wrote:
jpeg wrote:if there is no announcement but the end of next week then we gotta wait till the end of jan.


Crazy that it may be from winter Namm 16 to winter namm 17 before we receive any information.


yup it is messed up in todays time of open communication channels these companies choose not to communicate


Yeah. I don't get it. I think Akai is very highly regarded anymore, and one reason for that is their communication/marketing.
Go see how much love Ableton are getting on their FB page for their 15th anniversary post, for example.
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By MPC-Tutor Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:10 pm
I do wonder what the exact reasons are behind the 2.0 'preview' at NAMM back in January. If the intention was to create a buzz and generate excitement they've completely killed all those positive vibes by going completely silent about it for the next 10+ months. It's like they want to copy what the cool companies do, but then realise that they have to do some work at keeping that vibe going so they change their mind and revert to form. e.g go dark or just talk in cryptic vagaries.

It's interesting to watch people get angrier and angrier over the past few months across social media, and Akai just don't seem to notice or care enough to try to do something about it. It really wouldn't take much, just a regular status report or the odd sneak preview.

Let's hope that when 2.0 does drop it's rock solid, bug free and packed with great new features.
By DannyBmpc Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:46 pm
MPC-Tutor wrote:I do wonder what the exact reasons are behind the 2.0 'preview' at NAMM back in January. If the intention was to create a buzz and generate excitement they've completely killed all those positive vibes by going completely silent about it for the next 10+ months. It's like they want to copy what the cool companies do, but then realise that they have to do some work at keeping that vibe going so they change their mind and revert to form. e.g go dark or just talk in cryptic vagaries.

It's interesting to watch people get angrier and angrier over the past few months across social media, and Akai just don't seem to notice or care enough to try to do something about it. It really wouldn't take much, just a regular status report or the odd sneak preview.

Let's hope that when 2.0 does drop it's rock solid, bug free and packed with great new features.



I couldn't agree more. At this point akai is just shooting themselves in the foot. At this point people are just pissed. And there is no way 2.0 is going to be rock solid. Its going to be full of bugs as always. If you look at the history of InMusic you see that they buy up brands and do not really give them the proper support. It has happened over and over. The guys that are building and supporting akai are also supporting 8 other brands so there is no way they could really give it the attention it needs. No doubt a new flagship and 2.0 are on the way but the bigger question is will it be enough? Is it too little too late? I love the workflow but the unreliability are killing me! I still cant quit without it crashing on me and it often will erase a whole project for no reason. I have to make back ups at least once a week. Keep your trendy new features and give me a solid interface and I will be happy. :Sigh: :Sigh: :Sigh:
By jpeg Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:47 pm
DannyBmpc wrote:
MPC-Tutor wrote:I do wonder what the exact reasons are behind the 2.0 'preview' at NAMM back in January. If the intention was to create a buzz and generate excitement they've completely killed all those positive vibes by going completely silent about it for the next 10+ months. It's like they want to copy what the cool companies do, but then realise that they have to do some work at keeping that vibe going so they change their mind and revert to form. e.g go dark or just talk in cryptic vagaries.

It's interesting to watch people get angrier and angrier over the past few months across social media, and Akai just don't seem to notice or care enough to try to do something about it. It really wouldn't take much, just a regular status report or the odd sneak preview.

Let's hope that when 2.0 does drop it's rock solid, bug free and packed with great new features.



Is it too little too late? I love the workflow but the unreliability are killing me! I still cant quit without it crashing on me and it often will erase a whole project for no reason. I have to make back ups at least once a week. Keep your trendy new features and give me a solid interface and I will be happy. :Sigh: :Sigh: :Sigh:


this is the same thing we we was saying about NI about 3 months ago; then JAM came out and mostly everyone was happy.

so peeps are just angry cos no news and almost a year of silence, but has anyone actually hit up Dan on twitter and asked if this is coming this year still? cos this goodlife dude aint the one doing the interviews at NAMM events so maybe he the wrong person to ask.
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By Lampdog Tue Nov 01, 2016 5:16 pm
Fanu wrote:Peeps so thirsty for a new flagship and 2.0, they take anything as a sign for forthcoming goodies now :lol:

Agreed
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Agreed
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By pspsounds Tue Nov 01, 2016 5:23 pm
We shouldn't have to dig for updates or status but Pete has been helpful offering what he can. I'm sure there is a reason for the secrecy. Pending patents? Game changing product, who knows. Last update I saw was "This is just the beginning"