Support and discussion for all of Akai’s modern standalone MPCs including the MPC X / X SE, MPC Live 1, 2 & 3, MPC One / One+, MPC Key 37/61.
By Jose da Silva Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:56 am
Danoc wrote:
Jose da Silva wrote:New MPC or not...
On this moment i own two MPC Touch and i will not buy a new machine yet.

When the MPC Ren came out, I waited almost a year to buy it. Not only was it cheaper, but more importantly it was almost bugg free. The MPC Touch i did buy immediately. Because it uses the same software as the MPC Ren.

For V2.0 I will wait...
The first month's after release there will be updates after updates. And I will wait till it's more stable.

With the Touch and V2.0 I'm almost @ the same page as the MPC Live in studio mode. I will buy the X next year. If the sound chip is really better than the Touch. I use the Touch soundcart gor mine DAW in and outputs and i hope there will be a MPCX mk2. Because I think the MPC X leggs power in standalone mode. I hope for a strongers cpu and a larger ram. I really don't like the idea of 8 tracks and no VST in standalone mode. The music we produce these days are a lot VST and effects drivin. So no standalone mode for me on this moment.


Have to ask. Where did you get the MPCx lags power as a standalone? How are Vsts suppose to work in standalones when we are going to end up dumping our drums back in a DAW anyway?


If you need to go back to a DAW or MPC V2.0 to get VST instruments. Is the MPC Live or X a real standalone?

For our sort of music we produce these days. We really need VST. I really love MPC. I did own all flagship models (accept the 5000). But to be honest. If it can't run VST, i still need native power from the computer. So the standalone option won't work for us.
8 tracks!!!! Are you serious? A project needs 100 to 200 tracks for vst and audio.

For me this is not a hobby. Our productions are club bangers in West Europe and the Caribean. If Akai says standalone. It has to be a standalone for 2017 capabilities. And not a standalone for the capabilities of 10 years ago.

Again i'm not a MPC hater. I own 2 x touch 1 x Ren and 1 x studio. We have 3 studio's. And if we see in the next 9 months and with enough testing good reactions on these new machine. We wil replace it with new MPC's. but i really don't think the power of these machines will be enough for modern productions in standalone mode. I'm sorry
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By zangetsu01 Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:07 am
callofthevoid wrote:Anyone know why there's no arrangement view screen on the standalone? Looks like it has it on the computer screen for v2? But no screen to organise a song on a timeline with copying/pasting/moving song parts on tracks etc? Hoping I just missed it. Beatmaker2 on ipad has this and it's kind of fiddly on smaller screens but useable and a big deal ommision on the Akai for some workflows :/


Could this be what you mean?

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It seams that this view isn't available in stand alone mode or even on the harware side at all. It would be a great asset. I also expected something like this on the touch screen, it may not be a deal breaker to me but it is an essential feature.
By callofthevoid Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:14 am
zangetsu01 wrote:
callofthevoid wrote:Anyone know why there's no arrangement view screen on the standalone? Looks like it has it on the computer screen for v2? But no screen to organise a song on a timeline with copying/pasting/moving song parts on tracks etc? Hoping I just missed it. Beatmaker2 on ipad has this and it's kind of fiddly on smaller screens but useable and a big deal ommision on the Akai for some workflows :/


Could this be what you mean?

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It seams that this view isn't available in stand alone mode or even on the harware side at all. It would be a great asset. I also expected something like this on the touch screen, it may not be a deal breaker to me but it is an essential feature.


Yeah, a condensed version of that view (minus the track/sample inspector along the bottom).. Lame they haven't thought to put this in. Making me rethink purchase tbh :/
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By starmanwarz Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:57 am
Danoc wrote:
starmanwarz wrote:These past few years I stopped making beats but these new MPC's look inspiring and I'm considering getting one to replace my 2500 and make a fresh start.. Question is which would fit me more..


That's wats up! Im making a fresh start from the 2000XL to the MPCx. Got the money and ready to go. Right now l use the lpd8 and it holds me down but l need tbat X in my life.

Will you be traveling a lot? Live wood be best pick. If your stable the the X would be perfect.



Actually I won't be traveling at all, so I don't really care about mobility.

However, I'm not sure that I can justify the X's price over the Live and that's because the X doesn't have any extra feaures, from what I understand. Sure, all the knobs and extra buttons help with workflow, but the Live can do everything the X can for half the price (correct me if I'm wrong).
By callofthevoid Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:05 am
starmanwarz wrote:
Danoc wrote:
starmanwarz wrote:These past few years I stopped making beats but these new MPC's look inspiring and I'm considering getting one to replace my 2500 and make a fresh start.. Question is which would fit me more..


That's wats up! Im making a fresh start from the 2000XL to the MPCx. Got the money and ready to go. Right now l use the lpd8 and it holds me down but l need tbat X in my life.

Will you be traveling a lot? Live wood be best pick. If your stable the the X would be perfect.



Actually I won't be traveling at all, so I don't really care about mobility.

However, I'm not sure that I can justify the X's price over the Live and that's because the X doesn't have any extra feaures, from what I understand. Sure, all the knobs and extra buttons help with workflow, but the Live can do everything the X can for half the price (correct me if I'm wrong).


WAY better ui + bigger screen and better connectivity (CV, mic preamps, extra midi ports etc). Grab the Live if those aren't important to you ;)
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By Fanu Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:12 am
callofthevoid wrote:
zangetsu01 wrote:
callofthevoid wrote:Anyone know why there's no arrangement view screen on the standalone? Looks like it has it on the computer screen for v2? But no screen to organise a song on a timeline with copying/pasting/moving song parts on tracks etc? Hoping I just missed it. Beatmaker2 on ipad has this and it's kind of fiddly on smaller screens but useable and a big deal ommision on the Akai for some workflows :/


Could this be what you mean?

Image

It seams that this view isn't available in stand alone mode or even on the harware side at all. It would be a great asset. I also expected something like this on the touch screen, it may not be a deal breaker to me but it is an essential feature.


Yeah, a condensed version of that view (minus the track/sample inspector along the bottom).. Lame they haven't thought to put this in. Making me rethink purchase tbh :/


So is it confirmed that the X/Live won't have the arrangement, so you can't see how your tracks line up?
By callofthevoid Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:17 am
So is it confirmed that the X/Live won't have the arrangement, so you can't see how your tracks line up?


Dunno if confirmed? Poss dealbreaker for me personally if it's not there tho. Or maybe I'm just not grasping the mpc workflow, never owned one, maybe its just as fast/flexible without arrangement view somehow? Always wanted a 1000 to team with my OT but never copped one..
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By zangetsu01 Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:46 am
Fanu wrote:
So is it confirmed that the X/Live won't have the arrangement, so you can't see how your tracks line up?


In this video you can see Hellfire record multiple tracks at once so he's definitly inside track mode, but when you look at the screen of the mpc (2.0) you'll just see an updated version of the track view we allready have in 1.9.6/1.9.7:

https://www.facebook.com/100006408588219/videos/1889605651263036/
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By RodmanSan Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:04 am
zangetsu01 wrote:In this video you can see Hellfire record multiple tracks at once so he's definitly inside track mode, but when you look at the screen of the mpc (2.0) you'll just see an updated version of the track view we allready have in 1.9.6/1.9.7:

https://www.facebook.com/100006408588219/videos/1889605651263036/


Comments under this video :
Chris Roberts Can you arrange a track on the hardware or does it have to be connected to a computer?

Marcus Björn
Marcus Björn You can do it in hardware
By callofthevoid Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:21 am
RodmanSan wrote:
zangetsu01 wrote:In this video you can see Hellfire record multiple tracks at once so he's definitly inside track mode, but when you look at the screen of the mpc (2.0) you'll just see an updated version of the track view we allready have in 1.9.6/1.9.7:

https://www.facebook.com/100006408588219/videos/1889605651263036/


Comments under this video :
Chris Roberts Can you arrange a track on the hardware or does it have to be connected to a computer?

Marcus Björn
Marcus Björn You can do it in hardware


He could just be referring to the same way you could always arrange a song on mpc hardware (apparently?). That's not a visual arrangement view tho. Be cool if it's there tho..
By callofthevoid Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:36 am
starmanwarz wrote:Actually I won't be traveling at all, so I don't really care about mobility.

However, I'm not sure that I can justify the X's price over the Live and that's because the X doesn't have any extra feaures, from what I understand. Sure, all the knobs and extra buttons help with workflow, but the Live can do everything the X can for half the price (correct me if I'm wrong).


WAY better ui + bigger screen and better connectivity (CV, mic preamps, extra midi ports etc). Grab the Live if those aren't important to you ;)[/quote]

UI seems exactly the same to me?[/quote]

No way!? X has almost 'button per function' and the 16 knobs kills 4. In quantity and also they have display per knob so you can see what they've assigned to them. Way enhanced UI over the Live...
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By starmanwarz Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:39 am
My bad, by UI I thought of the screen UI aka the software in the MPC's.

Don't get me wrong, all of these extra buttons are very useful but the features are exactly the same between these new models and that doesn't justify the double price of the X over the Live, imho.
By Mono-Amine Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:34 am
I just pre-ordered the mpc live, looking forward checking it out and seeing what it can do

One thing i havent seen confirmation on is the specs of the drag and drop. I hope it will be able in 2.0 to drop audiotracks from the DAW (in my case ableton) to the 2.0 timeline in a audio track.

Can anyone confirm this is possible?