Support and discussion for all of Akai’s modern standalone MPCs including the MPC X / X SE, MPC Live 1, 2 & 3, MPC One / One+, MPC Key 37/61.
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By Danoc Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:46 am
Ill-Green wrote:
Danoc wrote:They gotta make that 8 stereo audio tracks into 16 mono audio tracks for one. Have an option to record in stereo or mono.


How would they do that when they have 8 outs on the X? Are you talking about the software?

Yes, 8 outs can send 8 tracks. And if you had 16 tracks for a song you would have to track out 8 tracks at a time, meaning you will track out tracks 1 to 8 the first pass and 9 to 16 the second pass. No biggie, its been done since the days of the MPC3000.

My MPC500 only got 2 outs but got 48 tracks so I would resample it all into a 2 track stereo master to push them out all at once. There are guys that really do track out 2 at a time for all 48 tracks though. Each to their zone.[/quote]
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Thats what l basically meant when l talked about the 8 outs.
Hey its all good cause l will do drums/percussion only so that's right up my alley. :smoker:
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By Danoc Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:55 am
@Ill-Green:

See that is so perfect for me and the.power from the X will be great. Once l get it ill probably do more but I gave to have so l can see actually what l can do.

2.0 mught be tighter than people expect.
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By wavemartian Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:48 am
I'm curious like all of us, but regarding the MPC-x, I wonder if it will act as a multitrack recorder as such. Given, it has a series of audio inputs, it seems you'd be able to arm all tracks and record into the mpc, simultaneously?. I'm eager to actually see screen shots of audio and midi together in a time-line, to date I've only seen an individual audio shot, how are multiple audio tracks going to look on the MPC-x?
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By zangetsu01 Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:54 am
wavemartian wrote:I'm curious like all of us, but regarding the MPC-x, I wonder if it will act as a multitrack recorder as such. Given, it has a series of audio inputs, it seems you'd be able to arm all tracks and record into the mpc, simultaneously?. I'm eager to actually see screen shots of audio and midi together in a time-line, to date I've only seen an individual audio shot, how are multiple audio tracks going to look on the MPC-x?


https://www.facebook.com/100006408588219/videos/1889605651263036/?pnref=story
By Gnome Tone Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:46 am
wavemartian wrote:I'm curious like all of us, but regarding the MPC-x, I wonder if it will act as a multitrack recorder as such. Given, it has a series of audio inputs, it seems you'd be able to arm all tracks and record into the mpc, simultaneously?. I'm eager to actually see screen shots of audio and midi together in a time-line, to date I've only seen an individual audio shot, how are multiple audio tracks going to look on the MPC-x?

I'm guessing you can only record 2 tracks at a time. ???
By Gnome Tone Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:54 am
Danoc wrote:@Gnome Tone
How would they do that when they have 8 outs on the X? Are you talking about the software?

Hmm, not sure what the number of outputs have to do with the number of tracks available, or recording in stereo or mono. 8 outputs (really 6 with the main outs) is workable for sending to a mixer, which is what a lot of analog engineers will want, but I think having the option for a least mono or stereo tracks should be standard. I really feel that if the X would simply allow 16 audio tracks to mirror the 16 pads, mono or stereo, that the machine would appeal to a lot more people wanting to record and launch, or trigger loops. Essentially a 16 track looper. For me, not wanting to use a DAW, but could get by 16 audio tracks, would be an attractive product.

And I know there's the topic of "what an MPC" ... "IS" but 16 audio tracks in 2017 is hardly excessive, even in a stand alone machine. I had an Akai DPS24 15 years ago, you guessed it, 24 tracks. Lol.

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I didnt know if the 8 stereo tracks were linked to the 8 outs or not. Now l see.

I just talked to my boy who has a Ren he said he has Akai DPS16 tucked away with a mpc2000 lm like wtf are you doing with that? lol
He said hes going to sell both along with the Ren to get the X. I told him that DSP12 is worth .25 cents lol[/quote]
When you hear how clean the X sounds, you'll be wanting the DPS12 as a tool, even to mix down to. Believe me, the machine has a sound dude. The A/D converters are dope. The DPS24 went for $4500 almost 20 years ago. To this day, people in the know still use them, it's the real deal. Check the economy these days and do the math. Lol. Gear is made cheap these days, that's why people still pay big bills for older mixers, they sound good and are built to last. You can't buy a real mixer from Sweetwater. Not a "real" mixer.
Cheers.
By callofthevoid Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:32 pm
Maybe the 8 audio tracks limit has more to do with what is linked to those tracks. Like Timestrech etc. If the timestrech algo is heavy on cpu maybe 16 tracks would potentially buckle the cpu easier and mean having to redesign a lot of stuff so as to encorporate having different kinds of audio tracks (8 timestrech tracks and #non-timestrech tracks)?
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By Danoc Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:13 pm
starmanwarz wrote:I wonder about the build quality of the new MPCs. How's the quality on the Ren/Touch? Any faulty pad sensors, switches etc?


Nah bro the MPCx is in point nothing faulty about it. Its built great especially the X.
Pad response, everyone gives a thumbs up from Saint Joe to Masada Trent.

Here's Masada vid on it
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n7ZKcBqZ2yg
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By Danoc Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:18 pm
callofthevoid wrote:Maybe the 8 audio tracks limit has more to do with what is linked to those tracks. Like Timestrech etc. If the timestrech algo is heavy on cpu maybe 16 tracks would potentially buckle the cpu easier and mean having to redesign a lot of stuff so as to encorporate having different kinds of audio tracks (8 timestrech tracks and #non-timestrech tracks)?


Let me ask you doesn't time stretch work in standalone? I thought it did being the X And Live run real powerful.
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By Danoc Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:28 pm
In general why woukd Akai build a flimsy X or Live? The rep said as far as sequencer goes in standalone mode its just like the 3000 or 2000XL: -) which makes me so happy.
I think we gotta worry more bout the software than anything.
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By Ill-Green Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:52 pm
During the build of the Renaissance, Akai personally asked us for feedback in 2011 and one of the popular issues was tact switches breaking on the 1000, 2500 and 5000. They were about to release the Ren with those same tact switches but our feedback changed the whole engineering to something sturdier. I don't own a Ren but I haven't heard tact switch failures that often. Though they do exist, but not how the 1000 and 2500 were constantly breaking.