Support and discussion for all of Akai’s modern standalone MPCs including the MPC X / X SE, MPC Live 1, 2 & 3, MPC One / One+, MPC Key 37/61.
By jpeg Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:13 pm
zangetsu01 wrote:Some people actually believe that they've build 2.0 from scratch.. :lol: :lol: :lol:


how u know they have not; just NI had to re-code maschine for 2.0 to accommodate multi core among other things so we have been told
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By zangetsu01 Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:03 am
jpeg wrote:
zangetsu01 wrote:Some people actually believe that they've build 2.0 from scratch.. :lol: :lol: :lol:


how u know they have not; just NI had to re-code maschine for 2.0 to accommodate multi core among other things so we have been told


We have been told so many things.. :smoker:
By callofthevoid Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:59 am
Anyone seen any new info on song mode? Seems lame that they haven't added the Daw song arrangement view to the standalone. Had that view in Beatmaker/nanostudio on my phone years ago, surely it's doable? If they genuinely did rewrite the entire code I think they would have included this. Doesn't really feel like it's finished unless they add it. At least not in terms of the way they keep saying that 'the standalone runs the exact same software as the controller mode'. It's a huge difference..
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By Fanu Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:45 am
zangetsu01 wrote:We have been told so many things.. :smoker:


I guess it's OK to question some of the stuff Akai say after the fact they said the vintage modes on the Ren were actually the result of the same components and signal path / filters that were used on earlier models – and that turned out to be a lie…
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By Danoc Sun Feb 12, 2017 10:06 am
Fanu wrote:
zangetsu01 wrote:We have been told so many things.. :smoker:


I guess it's OK to question some of the stuff Akai say after the fact they said the vintage modes on the Ren were actually the result of the same components and signal path / filters that were used on earlier models – and that turned out to be a lie…


I remember them saying that. So that was a lie huh? No MPC 60 vintage on the Ren?
By callofthevoid Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:25 am
Fanu wrote:Yeah it's all plugin stuff…probably compression, EQ, saturation.
They *could* make that a pretty dope thing if they teamed up with devs such as Acustica or Slate such who go to great lengths modeling all that stuff.


Yeah, don't know why more hardware companies don't team up for fx? Novation and Akai are first that come to mind for having pretty lame fx. There are a ton of companies out there they could approach. Would love to see stuff like D16 decimort, U-he satin, PSP spring reverb etc built in to some boxes....
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By Coz Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:23 pm
Fanu wrote:They *could* make that a pretty dope thing if they teamed up with devs such as Acustica or Slate such who go to great lengths modeling all that stuff.


A few instances of any Acustica stuff would cripple the entire machine! They should definitely improve the quality of the internal effects though. I'm sure they could develop their own App Store for effects and instruments if they really wanted to. :popcorn:
By Eyalc Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:01 pm
callofthevoid wrote:Anyone seen any new info on song mode? Seems lame that they haven't added the Daw song arrangement view to the standalone. Had that view in Beatmaker/nanostudio on my phone years ago, surely it's doable? If they genuinely did rewrite the entire code I think they would have included this. Doesn't really feel like it's finished unless they add it. At least not in terms of the way they keep saying that 'the standalone runs the exact same software as the controller mode'. It's a huge difference..


I think they're already approaching DAW song arrangement view. It just doesn't include Song Mode. Song Mode isn't as important anymore - you can't do anything meaningful with it after you structure it... want to bounce stems, convert to one sequence. Want to record an audio track that spans multiple sequences, convert to one sequence (I have no proof this works this way, but it's really the only logical way). Instead of finding ways to make Song Mode fit within the evolving software, I think they need to get rid of it and add a few key functions like:

* add sequence markers that can be jumped to quickly (shift + arrow - or something like that).
* a decent copy / paste of midi or audio events - right now it's cumbersome - not impossible, just cumbersome
* highlight multiple events on the touch screen and press a button to "repeat" the events at some specified time in the timeline.

I'm sure there's more. But if they added these, using one sequence would be just like DAW song arrangement view. And i'm one of the people that criticized Song Mode - but in reality, I'm really thinking it just needs to go, and focus on song arrangement features and functions within one sequence instead.
By Eyalc Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:02 pm
Fanu wrote:They *could* make that a pretty dope thing if they teamed up with devs such as Acustica or Slate such who go to great lengths modeling all that stuff.


I think this is the way to go. Any of these vendors actually. There are a ton out there. Just as long as the standalone CPU could handle the load.
By Eyalc Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:04 pm
Fanu wrote:
I guess it's NECESSARY to question some of the stuff Akai say after the fact they said the vintage modes on the Ren were actually the result of the same components and signal path / filters that were used on earlier models – and that turned out to be a lie…


Fixed that for you... :-) HAHA - just giving you a hard time man. But seriously, I think it's necessary to question them now.