Support and discussion for all of Akai’s modern standalone MPCs including the MPC X / X SE, MPC Live 1, 2 & 3, MPC One / One+, MPC Key 37/61.
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By psr Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:02 pm
Elmar Jestro wrote:Good job on the comparison.

Are you guys actually testing the 2.0 software right now? Or just the standalones?
Asking this because all info is about the standalone units. And nothing official about the software.


Word! both.
By Elmar Jestro Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:05 pm
Danoc wrote:Well in stand alone mide you're looking at 2.0. But if you want to see it work on the computer is another story.

Elmar Jestro wrote:Good job on the comparison.

Are you guys actually testing the 2.0 software right now? Or just the standalones?
Asking this because all info is about the standalone units. And nothing official about the software.


And that's exactly why I asked. A working 2.0 and betatested version for the (linux based) standalones doesn't mean it's also ready for mac or pc including all necessary drivers etc.
By Elmar Jestro Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:06 pm
psr wrote:
Elmar Jestro wrote:Good job on the comparison.

Are you guys actually testing the 2.0 software right now? Or just the standalones?
Asking this because all info is about the standalone units. And nothing official about the software.


Word! both.


Good to know. Thanks psr!
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By Wormhelmet Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:38 pm
Danoc wrote:A thumb drive is nothing but a mini hard drive. you're probably right about the other one sending info back and forth to the PC. Im happy about that. But there is no way none of them don't work with a PC.


Just so there is no confusion on what was said, I did not read anyone posting you couldn't hook an external usb drive to the MPC and read the data. I also did not read anyone saying you couldn't pass data back and forth through a USB cable connected to a PC.

The question came up if you could use the MPC to browse your computer for samples and that is not possible unless they supply a way to enter your computer account credentials in the Standalone software to connect to a computer and use those credentials to gain permission to browse your computers files, specifically sample files.
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By Fanu Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:20 pm
Fanu wrote:So that SOS review says in pros/cons: "Song mode still lacking".
What, seriously? You have that in 1.9.


Ah, I think the person who wrote the review meant you can't record audio in song mode or in a continuous mode so the recorded audio would go on as long as you'd like, Ableton style, but is always tied to the sequence length.
So, no worries…just misleading wording from the author's part.
By Bain Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:51 pm
Fanu wrote:
Fanu wrote:So that SOS review says in pros/cons: "Song mode still lacking".
What, seriously? You have that in 1.9.


Ah, I think the person who wrote the review meant you can't record audio in song mode or in a continuous mode so the recorded audio would go on as long as you'd like, Ableton style, but is always tied to the sequence length.
So, no worries…just misleading wording from the author's part.


If this is true then akai was really not listening to how and why people wanted audio tracks. The only difference between 1.9 audio tracks is that you can now see the wave. I hope that I'm misunderstanding this. Why couldn't they give you a linear view of your entire song like a DAW but with basic audio editing functionality? So it seems that they are continuing with the akai workflow of stringing different sequences together in song mode. :x
By sgo csid Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:00 am
Bain wrote:

If this is true then akai was really not listening to how and why people wanted audio tracks. The only difference between 1.9 audio tracks is that you can now see the wave. I hope that I'm misunderstanding this. Why couldn't they give you a linear view of your entire song like a DAW but with basic audio editing functionality? So it seems that they are continuing with the akai workflow of stringing different sequences together in song mode. :x


yes the screen is very responsive good question
By Gnome Tone Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:30 am
I'm not understanding the non linear recording conversation here. How could one not be able to record audio in realtime the entire length of a song? If an arrangement is put together in song mode, and that song turns out to be 5 minutes long, why wouldn't the Akai be able to record a 5 minute synth overdub the length of the song? From standalone alone mode, one should be able to record 8 audio tracks as long as they want, even 45 minute songs.

I'm in the understanding that the X is marketed AS a DAW, not just a beat machine. Lol, I still dont know what these machines are about and can and can't do.
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By Loosecaboose Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:46 am
Well i just bought the SOS Mpc Live Review for %1.24 AUD :nod:

This is mentioned in the review:

" The only meaningful difference
between these and the audio tracks
in a traditional DAW is that they exist
separately within each Sequence, rather
than at the top Song level,"
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By Danoc Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:10 am
So that we're on the same page.
In order to get data from the PC to transfer it to the MPCx or Live you would have to be able to BROWSE files in that PC from the MPC. Whether its a sample or a one shot that is considered data.

Now are you talking about the C/: drive ? I will most likely agree you can't. But l never keep my sound samples on the C/: drive. Only on an external drive that is connected to that PC. But on the other hand if l kept sounds on the C/: drive l should be able to browse folders on that drive because the samples is data. In order to grab data from the PC you have to see what you're grabbing.



Wormhelmet wrote:
Danoc wrote:A thumb drive is nothing but a mini hard drive. you're probably right about the other one sending info back and forth to the PC. Im happy about that. But there is no way none of them don't work with a PC.


Just so there is no confusion on what was said, I did not read anyone posting you couldn't hook an external usb drive to the MPC and read the data. I also did not read anyone saying you couldn't pass data back and forth through a USB cable connected to a PC.

The question came up if you could use the MPC to browse your computer for samples and that is not possible unless they supply a way to enter your computer account credentials in the Standalone software to connect to a computer and use those credentials to gain permission to browse your computers files, specifically sample files.
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By Wormhelmet Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:59 am
Danoc wrote:So that we're on the same page.
In order to get data from the PC to transfer it to the MPCx or Live you would have to be able to BROWSE files in that PC from the MPC. Whether its a sample or a one shot that is considered data.

Now are you talking about the C/: drive ? I will most likely agree you can't. But l never keep my sound samples on the C/: drive. Only on an external drive that is connected to that PC. But on the other hand if l kept sounds on the C/: drive l should be able to browse folders on that drive because the samples is data. In order to grab data from the PC you have to see what you're grabbing.



An external drive is not a computer and has no inherent permissions. When I say computer, I mean system drive and secondary drives added to the computer that are permanent drives, not removable storage like thumb drives, usb drives, etc.

The computer will see the contents of the MPC drives, but the MPC will not be able to browse the pernanent drives of a computer unless the software can either supply credentials or the directory on the permant drive the software installed on the computer uses is shared without explicit permissions.

It would be a security risk to have a shared drive accesible by any attached device with no permissions.

You may not agree with this, but this is the way computers are setup with OS running and the way they deal with permanent drives and file permissions. The drive, even system drive, could be taken out of the computer and made into an external drive and then browsed by some other operating system such as windows drives being browseable by linux machines, or live cd OS running on RAM disk being able to browse a system drive, but unless it is shared and credentials supplied, you cannot just hook any device up and browse your computer files while it is running an active OS. Again, that would be a huge security risk to leave files with no permissions that aren't set explicitly for sharing.

I don't know the way the Akai software is setup , but I would be extremely doubtful of the ability of the MPC to browse permanent drives on a computer unless the software sets up a share (using administrator privileges while the install happens) that the MPC knows where to look explicitly. My own samples are on external drives, system drives, backed up on various media etc, but everyone keeps files a little differently. An MPC device connected by USB is not going to be able to browse it unless it can supply credentials of an account with permissions already setup.

Maybe check with Akai if you don't believe my information.