Sped up soul samples

What is the best way to do it? Sample it sped up already (I gotta Vestax that goes back/forward/pitch speed whatnot), or sample it normal. put it on 16 levels on the MPC 1k, and get it that way? Or sample it normal and RECYCLE it?

Do it both ways and see which comes out better for you.

Sped up samples was because there was little sample memory, u don't have that problem with the 1k. If you want that low fi sound from that method then you would do that.

speed it up after you sample it. That way, you know it will be in key, to what ever you pitch it to; this way when you match notes to it, say for example, the bassline....everything will be in the same key and not sound detuned, or clashing-OUT OF KEY!


the original singer will be in key to whatever the track is. You dont have to figure out what key it is in, but tune it up in increments of 10 (if you are using the mpc)

peace. BTW

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Hmmm not sure about that! Either pitch it to 'ear', or calculate it properly. I.e figure out initial BPM....Calculate how much you need to pitch it by to get it to the desired BPM etc (Time stretch if need be)

The issue of 'key' is sumthing u have to deal with regardless of how u sample the initial break...Again, either work it out in the begining and calculate it to the desired key (If you got your composition built already) or work it out after u pitched it up to the way you want it sounding etc then build around it.

Its best to try things out for yourself and see what works best. Having the option is one thing but your own technique is much more special

^^^i might have worded that wrong. Yeah, you still have to worry about the key, and match it to whatever you are working with....but it will be alot easier if you dont end up tuning your sample to like: 13, or some odd number that doesnt fall as a whole or half step. If you tune it using increments of 10, youll be more likely to get close to what you need faster....then go from there.

ive had this problem matching basslines to sample melodies. If you ended up sampling with the turntable pitch up or down a little....the sample might sound good, but try hitting a piano or bass note, your not gonna find one t hat fits, without detuning your synth or sample; it creates more work in the long run.

although, if you are laying down a vocal sample over a near completed beat, youll probably just need to match it accordingly. But at least youll know you are "in tune".

cyrus wrote:speed it up after you sample it. That way, you know it will be in key, to what ever you pitch it to; this way when you match notes to it, say for example, the bassline....everything will be in the same key and not sound detuned, or clashing-OUT OF KEY!


the original singer will be in key to whatever the track is. You dont have to figure out what key it is in, but tune it up in increments of 10 (if you are using the mpc)

peace. BTW

Word^^

i usually just sample the record sped up... then i chop or loop in the mpc, i like to hear how it sounds sped up before i sample so i dont sample it at the original speed and then change the pitch on the mpc and i dont like it, i guess it saves time for me... i got some examples of sped up samples on my soundclick page... tracks "ova" and "neva hurt again"

IMO, this is where it is beneficial to have a ASR 10 or other keyboard sampler because it lays it out on the keys for you. If you set your root key right you'll know exactly what notes to play with. Just my 2 cents

once you match the tempo you could then try some pitch shifting plugins...

everybody`s pitching soul voices up .. try pitchin` `em down instead ..

I wonder wich producer invented that or made that particular thing famous

Sorry for interupting your topic by the way .


peace

oraziodelcore wrote:everybody`s pitching soul voices up .. try pitchin` `em down instead ..

I wonder wich producer invented that or made that particular thing famous

Sorry for interupting your topic by the way .


peace

I know the RZA was doing sped up samples on the '36 Chambers' album. That's one of the earliest that I can remember right now.

id get it in time wit the tempo you want using a snare on the 2 & 4 and do the bass i woulnt worry bout the key being excact cause as long as you work around the root note (first in the scale)

wonder if sampling it slow then speeding it up would make the sample higher quality, more info in a smaler space of time

anyone?

you want to sample it at 44.1k (sped up). ...it saves memory and reduces clicks if converting the sample

oraziodelcore wrote:everybody`s pitching soul voices up .. try pitchin` `em down instead ..

I wonder wich producer invented that or made that particular thing famous

Sorry for interupting your topic by the way .


peace

I'm with you. Everybody's done it.
Damn, on to the next movement.

One thing I loved about the eighties was biting was wack.

One thing I loved about CD players. The skip button
for songs with pitched samples.

nothing wrong with a pitched sample!...and the ones ppl refer to are the vocal samples......let's not call them soul samples...cuz sped up vocal samples are taking from any kind of music!