Upcoming: MPC 2.0.5

maara wrote:

Ill-Green wrote:I think by October we'll see this update.

Savage

and optimistic

Ill-Green wrote:I think by October we'll see this update.

You meant by the end of business today.....

No update here people! Keep making music unless you cant do anything without this upcoming update

You should all stop posting about the update unless you want somebody to start complaining and call you all keyboard warriors...
Sometimes it feels like people don't understand irony and constructive criticism on the internet.

optik415 wrote:No update here people! Keep making music unless you cant do anything without this upcoming update

It would be nice to not have to use the audio track bounce workaround for realtime time stretch.

Other stuff like multitrack recording from the HDD, i'll patiently wait for.

Automageddon wrote:Sometimes it feels like people don't understand irony and constructive criticism on the internet.

+1

Was talking about the state of Akai and Live/X today with some friends, and thought I'd write down how I feel (not to sound like a heartbroken girlfriend, haha).

Don't want to try and bring anyone's feelings down, but I've kind of stopped waiting.

I've come to accept that Akai is just really slow with their updates. The progress that's happened since v1.0 isn't THAT massive in my book (=takes them a long time to implement basic stuff), and some basic functionality is still bafflingly missing (especially relating to automation and its editing as well copying and pasting midi on standalone).
And PDC on software...they've been aware of it for so long :-/

Will those things ever come…I don't know. My best and realistic guess would be that it takes some 2-3 years for those to happen. Or maybe, to get to a state where most of the much-needed things will be happening, will take as long as it took from v1.0 to 2.0.

Personal verdict is that Live and X are OK machines, but they didn't "kill the competition" or anything. My hopes were high, but I don't feel these devices lived completely up to the hype.
What's a bit sad is that these devices could've been really great and blown us out of the waters, but users were sold semi-finished products and allowed to join a beta program by paying a full price. There's something not right about that…can't put it into words exactly. In my book, the difference between now and v1.0 is that now they're clearly calling it beta, while they didn't do that before.

I do get the vibe that Akai are trying – they wouldn't have done the machines if they were not, obviously.
But somehow you get the vibe that the CEOs and all don't understand the needs of today's musicians, and I'm not sure about the devs, either. Maybe the beta team is small as well, and are their voices heard…? I don't know. There's always been so much missing functionality, and that's why I say that; if there had been some serious beatlayers in the team from the get-go, no way some of those features would've got left out.

I've said these exact words here before: you can definitely make chart hits with these devices if you have that in you, so that's not the case. It's just…it's 2017 and we were all ready to receive devices that'd blow us out of the water. And they didn't. We're back to the waiting game just like after v1.0. You'll probably get a few updates a year.

How do you feel?

Fanu wrote:How do you feel?

like i dont want a Live and i'm not paying anything near that for an X

i also think Akai suck mad balls for not following through with their word that Renaissance & Studio users could pay for the 2.0 update.....

Akai are just a bunch of stinkers really....

Living Bate wrote:
i also think Akai suck mad balls for not following through with their word that Renaissance & Studio users could pay for the 2.0 update.....

Did they not get it?

Am I eligible to download and use the MPC 2.0 Beta?

The MPC 2.0 Beta is available only for MPC Touch, MPC Live, and MPC X owners.

http://www.akaipro.com/support/kb/artic ... or-mpc-2.0

Fanu wrote:
I do get the vibe that Akai are trying – they wouldn't have done the machines if they were not, obviously.
But somehow you get the vibe that the CEOs and all don't understand the needs of today's musicians, and I'm not sure about the devs, either. Maybe the beta team is small as well, and are their voices heard…? I don't know. There's always been so much missing functionality, and that's why I say that; if there had been some serious beatlayers in the team from the get-go, no way some of those features would've got left out.

I've said these exact words here before: you can definitely make chart hits with these devices if you have that in you, so that's not the case. It's just…it's 2017 and we were all ready to receive devices that'd blow us out of the water. And they didn't. We're back to the waiting game just like after v1.0. You'll probably get a few updates a year.

How do you feel?

Akai always was super slow releasing updates. I purchase the mpc2000, 4000 and 5000 brand new at release. Guys here, praise those model today. But firmware 1.0 for those model was straight terrible. Akai release 2 updates for the 5000 and ran for the border, like escape prisoners. Ren and studio was the only mpc to get long time support from akai in my opinion. The mpc software for the ren and studio was so buggy and unstable at launch, that I invested into maschine and still today is my go to machine. I now own the ren, touch and the mpcx, but that's out of gear lust. I got a hold of the mpcx on august the 15 and I'm getting the feeling the support is back to a crawl. It's not going to get any better. Inmusic has akai, numark, rane, denon and allen & heath under there belt and I bet inmusic is shifting engineers around among different brands. Throwing out new gear among all the brands without true upgrades and support. I purchase two denon sc5000 media players and the x1800 mixer this summer. The sc5000 decks has the same multicore systems stickers, that the mpcx and the live has. Software and the firmware is buggy and crashes. Guys at the denondj forum are posting, they're doing show with the decks and mixer and have to reboot in the middle of there set from bugs and glitches. That's not good at all, so the denon gear needs updates. At the same time. Inmusic are planning to release new decks and mixers for the ranedj brand for the end of this year launch.

My opinion is don't hold your breath waiting on updates, if you don't want to pass out. Inmusic is going to kill the good reputations among these brands to the point gemini and behringers are going to seem high end.

[quote="Fanu"]Was talking about the state of Akai and Live/X today with some friends, and thought I'd write down how I feel (not to sound like a heartbroken girlfriend, haha).

Don't want to try and bring anyone's feelings down, but I've kind of stopped waiting.

I've come to accept that Akai is just really slow with their updates. The progress that's happened since v1.0 isn't THAT massive in my book (=takes them a long time to implement basic stuff), and some basic functionality is still bafflingly missing (especially relating to automation and its editing as well copying and pasting midi on standalone).
And PDC on software...they've been aware of it for so long :-/

Will those things ever come…I don't know. My best and realistic guess would be that it takes some 2-3 years for those to happen. Or maybe, to get to a state where most of the much-needed things will be happening, will take as long as it took from v1.0 to 2.0.

Personal verdict is that Live and X are OK machines, but they didn't "kill the competition" or anything. My hopes were high, but I don't feel these devices lived completely up to the hype.
What's a bit sad is that these devices could've been really great and blown us out of the waters, but users were sold semi-finished products and allowed to join a beta program by paying a full price. There's something not right about that…can't put it into words exactly. In my book, the difference between now and v1.0 is that now they're clearly calling it beta, while they didn't do that before.

I do get the vibe that Akai are trying – they wouldn't have done the machines if they were not, obviously.
But somehow you get the vibe that the CEOs and all don't understand the needs of today's musicians, and I'm not sure about the devs, either. Maybe the beta team is small as well, and are their voices heard…? I don't know. There's always been so much missing functionality, and that's why I say that; if there had been some serious beatlayers in the team from the get-go, no way some of those features would've got left out.

I've said these exact words here before: you can definitely make chart hits with these devices if you have that in you, so that's not the case. It's just…it's 2017 and we were all ready to receive devices that'd blow us out of the water. And they didn't. We're back to the waiting game just like after v1.0. You'll probably get a few updates a year.

How do you feel?[/quote]

What you have said here has some truth, I remember when I bought the 4000 the day it came out and when I brought it home it wouldn't even boot properly. I had to update it before it would run out of the box. This was the original Akai before they sold the company.
Over the years the updates for 5000, 4000 and 2500 have been slow and abruptly stopped but one thing for sure is the MPC X is pretty much everything I asked for in a MPC. Anything else I get is icing on the cake. I'm personally blow away by it and it's achievements. I don't expect very much from Akai but I'm also very happy with my machine. I don't think I will use it as a controller much but what I can do in stand alone is perfect for me.

it would be nice if only they listen to some old user like most of the cats here

there are some thing in the mpc live that leave u speechless, kind of why??? (lack of track mute direct button and lack of step edit at least for now)

anyway the mpc live is really nice, is a bit step forward with still a real mpc heart
but finger crossed

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Akai is the only company I can recall that's had an employee leave to make their own OS for existing instruments, right?

I'm pretty blown away with the live myself. All I was hoping for was a updated mpc, and they delivered. The buggy units and that don't look good but I have very limited issues myself.

I wasn't expecting ableton in a box, nor do I want one really. The updates situation is annoying but I haven't had much experience or use for the software as it is.

From a hardware perspective the added features will be icing like someone else mentioned.

In terms of akai, they have a chance to turn this around but the release certainly hasn't helped. My opinion has drifted some from when I just had a 4k but I'm willing to see what akai does. Certainly will be more informed on how the company operates now.

I personally think for what it does the live is an amazing machine. The x is honestly everything I wanted out of a mpc, but the live is enough for me for right now.

There are other companies doing the same thing as akai, it doesn't change anything I know. However, it seems thier users are more vocal and also comes the haters/ bad rep.