Support and discussion for all of Akai’s modern standalone MPCs including the MPC X / X SE, MPC Live 1, 2 & 3, MPC One / One+, MPC Key 37/61.
By Cockdiesel Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:10 pm
What exactly don't you like about the reverb? I have no gripes about it and like it a lot more than the digitakt one. The digitakt has no presance. Don't get me wrong I have a H9 that blows those two away, not even close. Even some of the cheap iPad apps I have are closer to the eventide reverb.

Edit; it might be a slim chance but I could see there being added effect algos in updates, we'll if akai wants to really look out for it's customers.
By Moho Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:59 pm
I'm surprised the fx are as good as they are considering the number you can place between even just one pad and the output, whoever got them to be that cpu friendly is a genius, though one set of quality fx for use only on the output so you can only use one instance of them could be a solution, especially to a cpu hungry reverb.
By Automageddon Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:26 pm
Cockdiesel wrote:What exactly don't you like about the reverb? I have no gripes about it and like it a lot more than the digitakt one. The digitakt has no presance. Don't get me wrong I have a H9 that blows those two away, not even close. Even some of the cheap iPad apps I have are closer to the eventide reverb.

Edit; it might be a slim chance but I could see there being added effect algos in updates, we'll if akai wants to really look out for it's customers.

I like my reverbs spacious and slightly brighter, so what I do is sending the sound to either iPad or A4, resample a fully wet reverb then layer it on the source pad and dial it in to my liking.
The odd thing for me is that the effects are exactly the same as the mpc5k, minus the synth. Maybe that will be added in the future but it could be a too cpu hungry...

Let's raise a glass to wishful thinking, maybe Akai is not as bad as the Live launch made them look...

By midilifestyle Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:43 pm
1) This topic has completely derailed. Lol

2) So why not join the fun. This isn't related to the reverb, but I'd like to say that the tape echo on the MPC Live is incredible. I own the Eventide H9, plenty of tape delay plugins, as well as an actual Roland RE-301 Chorus Echo (and I've previously owned an RE-101) and the MPC's tape echo, oddly enough, is the most convincing emulation I've heard. It's got the saturation, the bizarre feedback unpredictability, the wow and flutter, and most importantly, vibes for days.

Now if only they'd let us control the effects via an external midi controller I'd be stoked.
Shoot, just let us map external CCs to the qlinks for christsakes. It can't be impossible.
By Cockdiesel Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:44 pm
I agree with you moho. Perhaps using some eq or filter before the verb could help with the lack of parameters if that's the issue people have.

Ah, I see what your saying. From what I hear the a4 has good reverb but people also say that about th digitakt so I take it with a grain of salt. I imagine th a4 to be a lot better as its a more complex machine however. I wouldn't use th akai reverb the way you use it either at all either.fully wet I imagine it kind of sucks, I use it very subtly on the mix parameter on the sample itself.

I have no problem resampling through effects boxes the same way you do, but I understand it would be nice to have it all in one.

I think you'd really like eventide reverb if you haven't tried it seems it's more intended for the way you use it . But it is expensive, paid almost as much for an h9 as the digitakt itself.

Not entirely off topic, who knows what exactly would be included in this update. Maybe they will have a shiny new reverb algo because of complaints. I noticed some of the air effects were really good, so unless it's to CPU heavy there is potential for some really quality effects.

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By wavejockey Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:39 pm
midilifestyle wrote:Now if only they'd let us control the effects via an external midi controller I'd be stoked.
Shoot, just let us map external CCs to the qlinks for christsakes. It can't be impossible.


wasn't that in one of the movies with andy mac?
he said you could assign any parameter to any Qlink button on the X

o wait, they said (and even printed!) lots of things that wasn't true
By JeriKo Jackson Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:06 am
This thread went awry... between the new maschine (controller + soundcard = zzzzzz) and petty gripes :WTF:

I can't believe Im about to speak up in defense of Akai :lol: Some of the gripes in this thread are whatever to me. Coming from all the legacy MPCs... the live despite its build being underwhelming has so much to offer. If people like their laptop rigs with all the VST, editing and browsing options etc cool... but if you spent decades using the older technology that had so many limitations, I believe the appreciation for these new boxes is higher. I mean consider the MPC 2000XL 32mb of ram... MPC 2000 floppy drive storage! Most of the young blood cant fathom that talking bout file browsing :roll:

I got no issues with what the box does now aside from the much hyped real time timestretching which looks like it will be improved in the next update and no MIDI effects.

chopping, arranging, processing, resampling, building songs, sequencing outboard... these new MPCs do what I need and with so many routing and FX options.

Do I trust Akai to see this all the way through to being the most awesomest beat machine ever... Hell NO! Do I have my issues with Akai and their previous disappoinments... you bet. But the vitriol over some of this stuff is a joke to me :roll:

rant over
By Certified Beatz Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:26 am
JeriKo Jackson wrote:This thread went awry... between the new maschine (controller + soundcard = zzzzzz) and petty gripes :WTF:

I can't believe Im about to speak up in defense of Akai :lol: Some of the gripes in this thread are whatever to me. Coming from all the legacy MPCs... the live despite its build being underwhelming has so much to offer. If people like their laptop rigs with all the VST, editing and browsing options etc cool... but if you spent decades using the older technology that had so many limitations, I believe the appreciation for these new boxes is higher. I mean consider the MPC 2000XL 32mb of ram... MPC 2000 floppy drive storage! Most of the young blood cant fathom that talking bout file browsing :roll:

I got no issues with what the box does now aside from the much hyped real time timestretching which looks like it will be improved in the next update and no MIDI effects.

chopping, arranging, processing, resampling, building songs, sequencing outboard... these new MPCs do what I need and with so many routing and FX options.

Do I trust Akai to see this all the way through to being the most awesomest beat machine ever... Hell NO! Do I have my issues with Akai and their previous disappoinments... you bet. But the vitriol over some of this stuff is a joke to me :roll:

rant over


They say u get wiser with age.. this is why i love the X my first sampler was a raxkmount numark 4 seconds.. then the 3000.. then the 2000 then 2500 then maschine studio.. should have saved my money and just bought the expansions feom them.. lastly K61 ..should have saved that money also... stop complaining about X and live yes the software is not where u want it .. u could have maschine software and cannot use it in your daw.. stop it already :worthy: :worthy: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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By Fanu Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:06 am
Bought the SOS review last night and yeah it does mention warping on pads on drum programs and Ableton Link, which had worked well for them.

I mentioned copying midi notes to Geoff on Twitter, and he said,
"In the version you have Seq Edit > Copy Events. There are more direct ways coming in the next and following updates."
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By Fanu Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:47 am
Talked to Geoff and Simon via Twitter a bit last night, mostly about the Modifier functionality.

I mentioned copying midi notes and Geoff said that will be improved. I did mention PDC, and he said nothing.
Honestly, in terms of that…personally I won't be keeping my hopes up.

See the convo on my Twitter http://twitter.com/fanufatgyver if you're interested.
By psoul Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:23 am
Fanu wrote:Talked to Geoff and Simon via Twitter a bit last night, mostly about the Modifier functionality.

I mentioned copying midi notes and Geoff said that will be improved. I did mention PDC, and he said nothing.
Honestly, in terms of that…personally I won't be keeping my hopes up.

See the convo on my Twitter http://twitter.com/fanufatgyver if you're interested.


sorry where? can't find it :)
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By Fanu Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:25 am
psoul wrote:
Fanu wrote:Talked to Geoff and Simon via Twitter a bit last night, mostly about the Modifier functionality.

I mentioned copying midi notes and Geoff said that will be improved. I did mention PDC, and he said nothing.
Honestly, in terms of that…personally I won't be keeping my hopes up.

See the convo on my Twitter http://twitter.com/fanufatgyver if you're interested.


sorry where? can't find it :)


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By Danoc Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:32 am
Bro l come from the MPC 2000 to the 2000XL to a LPD8 and now Live. The funtction9ut can do now l never had in tbe 2000XL.

For example. If l had 9 instruments on one track on the 2000XL and wanted to separate each sound to one individual track that took time. Now have explode and it works in a second. I appreciate the live.
I would never go NI!!

JeriKo Jackson wrote:This thread went awry... between the new maschine (controller + soundcard = zzzzzz) and petty gripes :WTF:

I can't believe Im about to speak up in defense of Akai :lol: Some of the gripes in this thread are whatever to me. Coming from all the legacy MPCs... the live despite its build being underwhelming has so much to offer. If people like their laptop rigs with all the VST, editing and browsing options etc cool... but if you spent decades using the older technology that had so many limitations, I believe the appreciation for these new boxes is higher. I mean consider the MPC 2000XL 32mb of ram... MPC 2000 floppy drive storage! Most of the young blood cant fathom that talking bout file browsing :roll:

I got no issues with what the box does now aside from the much hyped real time timestretching which looks like it will be improved in the next update and no MIDI effects.

chopping, arranging, processing, resampling, building songs, sequencing outboard... these new MPCs do what I need and with so many routing and FX options.

Do I trust Akai to see this all the way through to being the most awesomest beat machine ever... Hell NO! Do I have my issues with Akai and their previous disappoinments... you bet. But the vitriol over some of this stuff is a joke to me :roll:

rant over
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By Fanu Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:31 am
Akai guys once again got silent on Twitter when I brought up PDC.
Personally I'll have to write it off as "Never going to happen".